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WRONG. I can remember last season-"If SISU don't hire Thorn, it will be an outrage, the final straw!" VERY SHORT MEMORIES AROUND HERE, EH?

Yes, many of whom now want him fired. I was ridiculed a few weeks back for saying "if he was the right man then, why is he the wrong man now? What's changed?" At which point everyone claimed he was rubbish last season too! This thread sums up a lot of what is wrong with football for me.

EXACTLY. Let it go! I did in July. At least I can enjoy those tiny little moments of joy, like Platt's goal against WH, as much as I could our odd consolation goal in a 6-1 defeat by the likes of Arsenal in the top flight days! We are more an underdog now in this division than we ever were in...

He's already proven himself to me by what he did last season. That was still by no means the best squad we've had since relegation-indeed, we were heading for L1 fast even with King, Westwood and Aron. Yet he had us playing the best football I've seen in years. I know what he can do with even...

Agreed Tankie, I've been saying all season that I think they've "done their math" and worked out that they'll lose less in L1 with a squad stripped bare of a wage budget. Once they'd given up on promotion, they've decided to go the whole hog and invest zilch. Possibly even charge us interest...

Sven needs a job...he'll sign us lot's of WC2010 players and former England Internationals! Sign him up, Ken!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve Evans-manager of Crawley? Club on the up, they'll have a bigger budget in L1 than we will next season, if they haven't already. He certainly has more transfer funds. Also, a very dodgy geezer off the pitch and a horrible, nasty man. Don't want him anywhere near my club. Would also cost...

So "Fatty" is not a term of abuse? Very mature. You're judging the man on his physical condition? He doesn't "look" like a manager? I'm angry too but I don't go around lashing out at those who aren't responsible. We are in a relegation battle and being ran into the ground by the owners. Of...

Exactly. He bitched non-stop at Forest for not having enough funds to be competitive. He was moaning constantly that he needed more money to strenthen the squad-even after spending 2m on a RB and have Konchesky on loan from Liverpool at LB! Frankly, he'd just end up giving Ken a Glasgow Kiss...

433/451, discussed it to death and can't be bothered going into detail yet again. Agreed that the diamond is a busted flush, though.

There's no need to reduce the tone to immature abuse. Tempted to close this..

There's always a chance of that, but it feels to me like it would be rolling 6 dice and needing a 6 on all of them. I equally feel that knowing our luck we'll roll 6 1's, and things will somehow get even worse..I mean, imagine if Boothroyd was in charge now? We'd probably have 1 or 2 points.

Ah, Ken and his begging bowl...yes, I had that one down as spin to get our sympathy. Poor Ken.

Agreed with all that and have thought so for some time. I really do hate SISU with a passion. But being resigned to death doesn't make it any less depressing or painful.

A homeless guy who spends what cash he can on drugs and drink to dull the pain. The illusion of a saviour is just a hallucination. A bit like that Frankie Boyle sketch of the tramp dreaming that he's on a beach in the warm sunshine, when in reality he's been set on fire by some chav kids.

It's a bit like the idea of a broken clock being right twice a day :p If you keep saying "we're doomed, we're going down" for years, eventually you will be correct. But don't expect anyone to credit you with foresight and wisdom, as you've been saying the same thing for years! So, Tim...

It's a fair point but when you're banking on Lee Carsley miraculously turning out to be the next Clough or Busby, I'm inclined to stick with what we have.

I don't think it'd make us any better. The squad simply isn't good enough. I've been expecting relegation all season based on that. What people don't seem to grasp is that the teams confidence is shattered because of the position we're in, making it a vicious cycle. It was always going to be...

Felt like that a while ago, mate. It's the "visiting the elderly, dying relative" thing. Someone should just put us out of our misery, send the whole squad off to Switzerland.

Another two deflections, darn!