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So which ones have not been affected with the way the Tories have devastated our economy?

Same to you. At least give evidence on what he pledged and not what Corbyn or Abbot have said since. You would make an excellent Tory PM. Total lack of reality on the problems facing most people and the present state of the economy.

Which pledges are you talking about?

I take it you do know that our economy has crashed because of the extremely bad way the Tories have run things since then. It would be the same for someone to tighten their belts and change their plans because they don't have the funds they had just a few years ago. If Starmer continued to...

Show me where I said Corbyn was a terrorist. What I said was too many skeletons in the closet. But yes Blair lied about WMD's. Brown killed off final salary pensions with his massive tax take. Or would you like to disagree with this?

Which is what I have been saying. Yet most on here just seem to always want to disagree with everything I say even when they agree with me 🤔

Which is my point. Starmer to me is the best out of a not very good choice. This includes all parties. Yet by the look of it we are supposed to get rid of Starmer with no idea who his replacement should be. All that would happen is we would play into the hands of the Tories yet again and...

France has a massive advantage of already owning much of energy supply/generating. The railways also need change but ot would cost too much to do in one go. And how much extra would it cost to break all the contracts?

So you agree we need a Labour government much more than any other party yet you also say we don't. So who would you prefer to Starmer?

Affordability? The Tories have crashed the economy. We are in a totally different place than just a couple of years ago. If Labour keeps up with what is now not affordable the Tories will get back in. Would you prefer that?

I find it hard to understand how we desperately need a Labour government yet now we look like getting a Labour government next we have hardened Labour voters that don't want the present Labour leader to become PM. It seems they would prefer someone who would let the Tories back in. An easy...

Exactly. There has been bleak times before. But not one person from any party stands out presently.

Is that like the Tories who have wasted untold billions on that new rail line that gets even more expensive by the week even though it keeps getting shorter? How about comparing him to your hero Boris.

Beat me to it although I was also going to add or anyone else.

Like countless billions to save people £20 a month on free Internet?

Could do it the Tory way and waste billions on things that don't enrich people's lives or wait for the contracts to run down and do something different. So is it better to change plans depending on the financial mess the Tories have left us with or plough ahead wasting untold billions like the...

Did you or anyone else questioning the integrity of Starmer ask that of Corbyn?

Spot on. But as we can see from this thread the Labour leaders who hardly have a chance of getting voted in are championed and their faults ignored whereas someone who has a serious chance of winning an election has many having a go at them.

I wish I could understand you 😁

For me a big point is not to give the gutter press ammunition. For too many years we have been giving an endless supply of opportunities to attack. These days it is all about pulling the Tories apart. Just keep it as it is and come out with a decent way of taking the UK forward. We need a...