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I'd rather the club's debt to sisu wasn't increased out of spite thank you very much. If we're going to waste money like that I'd prefer a couple of shit players.

Think people are reading too much into this. My gut instinct is talks haven't really reached a detailed stage yet, and Mowbray is in no rush, as he wants to see if anything else comes along.

That was hardly a secret was it? It was all discussed before the election.

I'm not sure the German political system is the best example to counter the argument that PR can let in dangerous extreamists.

Baically it could end up like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aUxilWb2Og

Exactly, and that is why I have reservations about it. Not one single person voted for the last government, yet that would be a much more frequent occurrence under pr.

I have no issue in reforming the voting system (with what I am not sure though as PR also has its problems), but it annoys me how some people are now trying to claim the government has no mandate to carry out its policies because less than 50% voted for them. Less than 50% of people voted for...

One thing I don't understand with people crying foul of the voting system, more people have voted for the PM in this election than any other since 1997. Why were there no protests in 2001, 2005 & 2010?

Civilised people "protest" by voting out the party that they do not like. Scum like this are trying to impose their will on the rest of us. Why should I live in a way that they want? Why should I do what they want? What legitimacy have they got to tell me what to do? I bet half of these tossers...

The point I was making (as I am sure you are aware) is that Labour never win in England, yet that is now their only chance of getting back into power.

An example of the fragmented politacal system. 50.06% of the UK voted for Conservatives, UKIP, and the DUP. Basically the 3 right wing parties. On 90% of domestic issues those parties are identical.

I'm sure you will tell me, and why?

8 Labour wins. The first in 1974 was a hung parliament. SNP has seriously affected Labours ability to win. 19 general elections post world war 2, most votes in England: Labour 3 times Conservative 16 times

Actually just correcting the boundaries to try and make them a bit fairer. They have favoured labour for years. Tony Blair 36% of the vote. Michael Howard 33% of the vote. Result: 65 seat labour majority. David Cameron 37% of the vote. Gordon Brown 29% of the vote. Result...

The main problem I have with PR is you don't decide who your mp is. You vote for a party and they then assign you an mp. Look at what happens in euro elections. One of the local conservative meps recently died. There was no election for his replacement, the Conservatives just picked a...

And here is the problem I think. To me it seems that hardcore Labour voters wanted Miliband to be more left wing, but to the rest of us he needed to be more right wing.

Someone on the news pointing out that old labour (as opposed to new labour), hasn't won an election now for 41 years. I can't help but think that an old labour style hard left party is no longer relevant in the modern world. The labour party was setup to defend working people against...

It will look very bad if Labour supporters start bemoaning a conservative majority from 37% of the vote after they said nothing about Blair getting in with 36% of the vote.

Well it gets mentioned that without Scotland the tories would have been in power unbroken between 1950-1997. The reality is if it weren't for Scotland, England would have gotten sick of the tories much quicker. That will probably happen in England in the future now to be honest. As for PR...

Said it before but I think that's Labour finished. They'll never get Scotland back, and it's quite clear that they will always struggle to get a majority in England.