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And if we had amended the law so what he did was illegal then people would have been in uproar about human rights over it.

I don't give a shit about Theresa May, I'm not a supporter of her. If she did that then she's an idiot. All I care about is people being safe

Thanks for the useful info, clint van damme. having read up briefly, I agree the lifting of control orders was definitely a big mistake, it seems they were removed as people were worried it violated their human rights as I alluded to in my previous response to you. Bring them back and who gives...

Interesting reading about when the control orders for terror suspects were scrapped in 2011. Before they were scrapped, terror suspects who couldn't be prosecuted or deported could be monitored by electronic tag, curfew imposed, restricted from going to locations where other known terror...

Don't know much about control orders and how they fit in with human rights, it could be argued if he is prevented from returning and has partner/kids/parents/siblings in the UK that he has been living with for however many years then you are denying his human right to a family life which is part...

I don't disagree that they need more man power. but I also see a link between people who were known to security services and were still allowed to plan and carry out these attacks. After it was known this man was an isis supporter, what prevented us hauling his ass to jail? Was it that they...

So that is what prevented us locking up the london terrorist when he was going around the public park with an isis flag on national tv? Is it that there weren't enough police or was he protected by human rights law which give him freedom of expression and thought

Clearly something is preventing it as we have thousands of terror suspects allowed to walk free until they commit murder.

That is what they are saying essentially. But if we make these things illegal, people will just cry we are abusing their human rights or freedom of speech or whatever. Thus in certain cases human right laws need to be changed to allow us to make these things a crime.

Without knowing a full history of Human rights, am I right in saying they came to the forefront globally after ww2. And the catalyst for this was the Holocaust with the extermination and persecution of Jewish people at the hands of the nazis. Human rights were designed to protect the right of...

Just to add about that Italian man, when he was stopped in an airport flying to Syria or wherever. He told authorities he was going to be a terrorist, all that was done is he was added to a watch list.

Good Why protect the human rights of those who are actively seeking to remove our human rights.

What do you mean? I'm not directly having a go at the police/investigators, or at least wasn't trying to do. I think they need more man power, as well as a change in law to give them more legal power to round up these suspected Isis supporters who are walking free and put them behind bars before...

Just typical laddish behaviour apparently

Ok, people going around supporting Isis and terror attacks could just be lads being lads and we should accept this is now normal. Utterly appalling, we must clamp down on this sort of behaviour. This is not normal anti social behaviour or your typical yob giving it the biggun on a Saturday...

Pathetic

You can't be serious?

Why? Obviously both are heinous acts to support. But supporting and justifying the terrorist ideology of mass murder is worse imo

Do you have the full interview so I can read/hear it? Without context if it became known she was supporting/justifying terrorist acts then would have been the time to act. Secondly, you can't create killers if they don't want to kill. Perhaps it would be better for there true nature to be shown...

Damn I thought being a lad/acting hard was buying a six pack of larger when you are 15 and drinking them down the park, or sitting at the back of the bus smoking a fag. Maybe smash the occasional bus shelter if you are feeling really edgy and had a few drinks. Things must have changed, now if...