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  1. Otis

    Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

    Yeah, I agree. It must be tough for them, but I don't see much in the way of front footedness from the police and much more backing away and standing back until they then have to go in. I am guessing that is the instruction
  2. Otis

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    Yeah, very fair point. I am guessing some might argue this on here, but that seems to have been a case of trying to defend our country. I know some will say it, but there is no comparison. This rioting is not defending our country. It's going on the attack, to seemingly make a point. But...
  3. Otis

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    Cheers for that. I didn't know any of that. As I say, I did know quite a bit about Moseley, but only saying that his party was banned, so assume that was when war broke out
  4. Otis

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    Yeah, fair point. Well before my time and don't know too much about what happened. Know all about Moseley, but didn't know how we stopped him. Was it by violent protest?
  5. Otis

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    Yeah. Easy to pick and choose which cases isn't it Seen loads of puzzling sentences and that's across all walks of life, backgrounds, ethnicities. Some often appear much more lenient that others.
  6. Otis

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    No, I get it for sure. And it did work. I am just against violence, so it's hard for me to defend any use, unless as a defence, or in a war.
  7. Otis

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    Obviously a society that isn't integrated can never be good. One of the first things I would do would be to shut down all faith schools. Make sure RS is included in every curriculum and cover all religions. Each, individual faith or religion can always use the likes on Sunday School for Bible...
  8. Otis

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    Exactly. We had the exact same thing then. Black lives matter, but ....
  9. Otis

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    Enough is enough and the rioting, started as a result of the Southport stabbing. That was the catalyst and people clearly thought the guy was a Muslim. Definitely a huge factor. It was one murder spree that tipped the scale, but hand on heart, had it be immediately announced that the bloke was...
  10. Otis

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    I say they are. Innocents always get hurt and businesses get caught up in it all and looting ensues etc. I have no problem with protests. I do have a problem with violence.
  11. Otis

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    I think this site has actually gone insane.
  12. Otis

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    It's because "enough is enough." Obviously
  13. Otis

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    I'm not Surprised at some of the comments on here though. Not enough condemning and too much focus on supposed two facedness. Surely everyone has to condemn all this. Some can't seemingly even bring themselves to do that and just want to justify WHY it has happened. Even if there is...
  14. Otis

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    you said earlier you were not sure what the July riot in Leeds was about I did. People on here weren't even certain of which community. Doesn't make it not wrong though Was it just the Roma community rioting? I was saying it was muddied.
  15. Otis

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    Can't you see that is more than criminal damage? I have put the photos up. They are trying to burn a building that may well have people inside and trying to break in and burn it because they believe it is holding asylum seekers. That's nowhere even near to "just breaking a window"
  16. Otis

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    I'd have no issue with police just getting rubber bullets in machine guns and letting loose with things like that. Yup. Water canons at least. People could die in that building. Just hoping it was empty, or the ones that did get in, didn't actually attack anyone. Like I said, all riots are...
  17. Otis

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    No you're not.
  18. Otis

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    What the actual f*ck. All that happened in Rotherham was that a window was broken? You should be ashamed of yourself.
  19. Otis

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    All riots are wrong.
  20. Otis

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    No. Criminal damage in itself is not necessarily rioting is it. Obviously. Criminal damage happens all the time. You are going completely off topic and trying to point score. Starmer said rioters and violent acts and people aligning themselves with them.
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