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Just had a German girl stay with us for two weeks. She was saying they can vote at 16 in Germany and it seems to be working quite well

I think many are missing the point re the photo. He's 17. People are talking about other murders in the past and other killers. If this guy was 25, or 29, or 32 or whatever, this wouldn't be an issue and it wouldn't be a school photo. I don't think there is any weird flex to be had here.

Yeah. I don't see anything untoward and he is only 17. Be different if he was 28 and they were showing photos of him as a school boy.

I am not picking up on any sympathy for the Southport attacker. The photo you mean? Or is there something I have missed?

Bless.

Yeah. Not comparing to that This racist attack upset me much more than the airport incident though That was just a case of an officer overstepping his remit and losing it for a few seconds (even though can understand how anyone could in that circumstance) This Hartlepool guy was just walking...

I don't wish to stir the pot here, but it's been bugging me for a couple of days. When this story of the Southport incident first broke, there were a few comments on here from posters talking about certain SBT members being nowhere to be seen (the left, seemingly) while on other threads, these...

😲 The last one said it was just a very large, protruding clitoris and I believed her, because she made out it's quite common. When she phoned her mum though for a lift, I did find it a bit strange the mum kept calling her Kevin

I think some are reading too much into the photo of the attacker. It's clear to me that there is a deliberate "how could a boy like this turn into the killer he became" from the media. Makes a good story. No-one is trying to paint him as a choirboy. I am certain it's much more of a look what...

I know people are trying to give definitive answers, but to me, this is anything but clear cut. I truly can see both sides. I do also think there would be much more clear argument to find had this boxer been winning all her fights, therefore showing a very distinct advantage. She's not been.

It's been mentioned. We have certainly been talking about it a lot in our household.

You reap what you sow. And before anyone says anything, this is absolutely NOTHING like the airport incident.

I have to confess, I am swaying on this one. It's really confused me. I get both sides of the argument. Both sides make decent points. Really not sure how I feel over it, but it does seem a very valid point that she was born a woman and still is a woman. What do people propose they do? Put...

I would love that. Scores of 112-88 are ridiculous. Would be much better with a 2 nil, or 3-1 scoreline. Anything that helps keeps the score down and makes it harder to get the ball through the hoop, gets my vote every time

That's not the point. I was confused over the man/woman thing.

Thanks for that, Oakey. Very helpful. I thought she was male until I heard differently. It is all a little confused and like you say, lots of misinformation out there

What's the real story then, because I am finding it confusing.

Does someone shout police brutality there? 😂 Idiots.

Yeah, but can she identify as Welsh though?

Yeah, that's the way I see it. Not the way the Mail are reporting it though. She WAS born a woman, right? And has continued to be so. The Mail are calling her a biological male