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it isn't a sack him or back him debate ( i don't think) well not for me anyway otherwise i've wasted yet more of my life:D

so why are we all bothering then really.

nail on the head mate, he is in a lucky position in that respect

who would be a less untried manager than AT? I reckon they are lining up either Eakin, Linnel or Sky Blue Sam

you see the longer this conversation goes on the more I have 2 ideas in my head. 1/ If he can have no effect on our success or otherwise because his hands are so tied (as hinted on here) then walk away. Whats the point? I couldn't do a job if there was really no point in me being there. 2/...

I would have thought he had been around long enough in the club to take that with a pinch of salt but fair point

Thats kind of down to him as manager Jimmy. What everyone fails to comment on is that AT took the job, knowing the situation and the tossers he would be working for. He must have felt he could bring something to the party, reluctant to make him too much of a martyr

We reached the dizzy heights of 4th last December, with more or less the same team. I just hope that a defeatist mentality that seems to be abound within the support hasn't filtered down to the team/manager. i.e "Thorn has no chance as there is no investment." If we are going to take the...

I've got nothing against AT at all, and he is probably the best guy for this situation, but you can't call someone who is in the bottom 3 a miracle worker. Its hyperbole I've got a problem with not AT!

you see I can't class them as miracle workers. Sympathy for them and respect what they are doing but they would be "miracle workers" if we were in the top half of the table.

Hope he's got a few bob lined up. He's going to need Money to pay off SISU Money to buy at least part of the ground Money to buy a play off challenging team Money to allow us to field a reserve team Offers around?

or a jukebox penalty

thinking more of a safety certificate for your cruise missile

think you need to consider the health and safety aspects of this type of action :D

and Skybluesamio

exactly my point, people can't be arsed because its clear that flags and t shirts won't change anything. It has to be bigger and hit the owners where it hurts. And it doesn't really take balls, we aren't in Helmund here, it just needs people to agree with a plan and stick to it

well the "action" so far has been about effective as the unions

cos i was thinking of whoever controls the volume on the tannoy

can we commit the crime at the Ricoh?

Have to make a point for anyone who criticises our fans. I've said it before but players get as easier ride here than anywhere I know. Have lived and visited all around the U.K and sat in the home ends of many grounds to get a foot fix over the years. Compared to some of the vile comments, abuse...