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You're in to the argument about vaccine passports here really. If everyone is vaccinated should they be subject to restrictions while we wait for others to be vaccinated. Not sure what the answer is but does 'one size fits all' really work. I can see the arguments that its not fair to stop...

Isn't that the whole point? Look at the data over the remaining 3 weeks and there's, as far as I can tell, 3 possible outcomes; hospitalisations & deaths don't increase and we proceed as planned; hospitalisations & deaths show an increase but not an exponential increase so we proceed with...

Why would it mean the vaccine had failed? Vaccines aren't 100% and the majority of the adult population aren't fully vaccinated. If hospitals are full of the fully vaccinated then there would certainly be questions about the claimed effectiveness of the vaccines but I don't think anyone has...

About time, although how effective it will be given it seems fairly easy to circumvent the rules, not to mention the amber list shambles, remains to be seen. Supposed to be essential travel only to amber list countries yet there's reports of hundred of thousands of Brits heading to the likes...

Which is the reason there is, as I said, hope that an exponential rise in cases doesn't lead to a rise in hospitalisations and deaths. The idea that if hospitalisations and deaths start to rise in line with the rise we're seeing in cases we just ignore it seems very bizarre to me. Not sure...

Exactly. Go back and look at the numbers last summer, there's days with zero deaths reported but then cases started rising exponentially and look how we ended up. Of course there is going to be concern when cases start rising exponentially again. We've got 3 weeks until 21 June, which seems to...

The apprenticeships scheme is an absolute scam IMO. Subsidises firms to employ staff on less than minimum wage on the promise of non-existent jobs when the apprenticeship ends. My company now has about 50% of its client facing staff from this scheme, they've replaced full time, salaried...

Why are people talking about the move to Birmingham leading to lost revenue like its some massive surprise that has only been revealed now the accounts have been published? Wasn't it obvious to everyone the move would have an impact on revenue?

To be fair not sure I'd be lending the club money! The question is would anyone lend them money at a lower rate?

They've not handled this well at all. When someone says there's an issue with their mental health threatening to kick them out unless they do the thing they've said is causing the problem isn't a great way to proceed.

Hopefully this shows up as a clickable thumbnail.

Think this is the report being referred to: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/982499/S1208_CO-CIN_report_on_impact_of_vaccination_Apr_21.pdf

Someones taking the piss on her wiki page :ROFLMAO:

Was just looking for the actual report but haven't found it yet, assume it is publicly available somewhere. Hard to tell from reading news reports as this makes it sound like 113 out of the 526 vaccinated died, as bad as my maths is that definitely isn't 0.22%

All the test events have required a negative test for entry and some level of mask wearing & distancing, although as we've seen from televised games there's a decent percentage of people who seem incapable of wearing a mask properly if at all. In the next round of testing some events drop the...

Given this will most likely be a fix of first teams and U23s who are the youngsters to watch out for this season who could make the breakthrough?

Doubt we'll never know. China aren't exactly open about things at the best of times so if they have made a massive fuck up they aren't going to own up to it. The secrecy was the reason the US had an epidemiologist embedded in the disease control agency over there, so she could raise the alarm if...

The dominant strain there is the UK variant. Our plans for opening were based on that being the dominant strain here, rememberer we didn't have to worry about the Indian variant as the government had that all under control. We now have high rates of the Indian variant, they don't. But they are...

Everything is trending in the wrong direction and we've seen time and time again how quickly this can get out of hand. Staggering to me that people are still saying ignore the experts and just go for it and hope for the best.