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On a side note it amuses one that they think the cheapest day out includes buying a programme, a drink and a pie. Surely the cheapest day out would be to not buy these, just a ticket? How we laughed. I always buy a tea and a programme ... But a pie too? Spendthrift.

No but they might need one to bail out a stadium build for them.

As I put in the other thread, "ACL is not even a real company" this will make me laugh every time I recall it in the light of the confusion over which company is the real CCFC, which is trading, which has the golden share, which has the lease and debt and naming rights and beneficial rights...

I think my personal favourite line is, "ACL is not even a real business." This from the author of CCFC Ltd and CCFC (Holdings) Ltd accounts signed off, plus the much discussed confusion over the former being a non trading entity etc. which has taken a court appointed Administrator many weeks...

Alas, no. Of course this version paints CCC ACL in a bad light; they would say that wouldn't they? It paints SISU in an even worse light, totally unsuited to running a professional football club. No understanding, no negotiating skills, no transparency, no idea.

Time for stout hearts gentlemen and ladies. Even in their own version of events our owners sound like incompetent, grasping, mendacious fools. Stand firm. Be of good cheer. Once more unto the breaches. Not a penny more. If we die in the attempt, or the club does, better to die with your...

You have to factor in what has been raised before, namely that we have not had a good season for 15 years. How many other clubs have failed so dismally in that time frame? Even a top six, cup semi or run of exciting form would be something. The relentless gloom has driven many away. Now if we...

Owning your own home rather than renting is not, necessarily better in the long term if, 1. The value of the property goes down 2. The interest on your loan is high but rental value is low. 3. You cannot sell the property you own. 4. You die before the long term is reached. I could go on...

You can follow the move if you want, SBTaylor. Most of our fans have already moved once and won't be doing so again.

A whole generation? As most of our fans are over 45 why should they be in favour of such a pie in the sky scenario which they won't live to see? I know you are a teenager but think about that for a moment. The scenario is utter madness. 7000 is wildly optimistic. My guess would be about 3000...

Sounds elitist but obviously all fans are equal, but some are more equal than others.

Irrelevant, as I was speaking in general terms summarising the views expressed on this forum, ie many take a Moral stance, others take a practical, it won't work, stance. Of course, you can try to confuse the issue by referring to specific cases in which fan x or fan z supported an "immoral"...

It is indisputable only to those who have already decided to take a stance and stick to it come what may.

They may be serious but it is madness which will pile tens of millions in more debt onto the club. They underestimate the huge section of our fan base which is 45+ many of whom will not follow the club by the time the new stadium is in use.

Grendel, this has been explained before. Some people object on moral grounds to defaulting on a legal debt. Other people object because they don't see how it can work without lots of trouble. You disagree, presumably because you think it is moral to break an "unfair" rental agreement AND you...

FL: defending the indefensible. Parliament has threatened to take a closer look if the football authorities don't get their house in order. That time is now. Supporting CCFC is like supporting an old relative who is accused of being a dirty old man. Other people shout at or shun you.

Because a succession of owners were piling debt onto the club, not by buying players but by charging management fees and the like? The bottom line is that CCFC have had a big enough income over the last 10 years to pay the rent and break even and be moderately successful, ie. Still mid table...

Myself + 1 won't be renewing if SISU still in charge. We will not attend any home matches either, unless IN Coventry. I live 5 miles from Walsall too but wont go, except, possibly to the away fixture. 40 years of support flushed down the toliet. Our club has been kidnapped and we should not...

I have always had mixed feelings about the Ricoh but, right now, the thought of a home game there with SISU gone would be like I'd died and gone to Heaven.

Why, indeed? Some might care if they are informed of the issues, as, like Walsall fan WFC, who posts on here, they might be interested in the good of the game. Alternatively, they may feel if it happens to Cov it could happen to us. Even if a few held up banners of support or chants, it might...