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There's no comparison since that is clearly a crime committed, manslaughter. I ask again. What would be gained from a prosecution? Do you not think they have suffered? Why would you want them to suffer some more? Revenge? Spite? It certainly won't prevent further cases like this. No parent will...

It would be difficult to prove that they put the children at significant risk of harm since they were only 50 metres away in a secure holiday village, were checking on them every 30 minutes and believed they were safe. My question hasn't been answered yet. What would be gained? You clearly want...

Child neglect has to be interpreted in law. A case has to be argued. It is not an easy case to prove. You havent addressed my question What would be the point?

When women moan in this way they are not looking for solutions and they get annoyed when you offer solutions. They are not stupid they have already thought of most of these and rejected them. They have already decided there is no solution and that stinks. They want you to confirm this and...

We all agree it is child neglect. They did not break a law in that or this country, as far as I know. I don't think they would have been prosecuted in the UK as the circumstances did not break any law and I think the police would simply not press any charges. To suggest they left this country...

1)When we hear of a child being harmed we all panic and fear it could happen to us. 2)Then we persuade ourselves that it could never happen to us because we are good parents. I wouldn't have done X, y or z. 3) Next we must satisfy ourselves that the parents of the victim were bad parents. Not...

As I understand it the case would hinge on whether there was "significant risk of harm" in UK. Do you know what the law in Portugal was in the relevant year?

No idea and I can't see the relevance as nobody is arguing that they aren't guilty of a lack of care. Whether it amounts to a crime is what is relevant and whether they caused a crime is relevant. I think probably their action wasn't a crime and their action didn't cause​ a crime. It was at...

In any case the analogy concerned causation not the nature of the duty of care.

In law the principle of injury or damage is the same.

If a person leaves their car unlocked does that action cause it to be stolen? No, but they have been a contributory factor due to negligence. it isn't a crime to leave a car unlocked but it is a crime to steal an unlocked car

Still out of the league of anyone on here :facepalm: :guitar2:

I don't disagree with any of that. But unless they are murderers they have suffered a heavier price than their neglect deserves IMO. The loss itself is enough to kill you, but knowing you were foolishly neglecting your child and exposed her to, who knows what horrific end, that is too awful to...

Can we recall, just for the record, that the McCanns were dining 50 metres from their room in the closed holiday resort complex and it was considered safe, secure and normal for children to be in bed close by. Now we all know that was not so, but the context is important for balance. It is often...

I am sure if there was any evidence that they had committed any crime under Portuguese law they definitely would have been charged, no question. So we can assume there is no evidence of a crime. They have already been found guilty in the court of public opinion, however.

Hundreds of people leave children in a locked caravan, a chalet etc whilst they have a drink or meal nearby on holiday. I've witnessed it at holiday parks in the UK. That's what they did. It may be foolish but they are not alone in this foolishness. Many people sit at the end of their garden...

I agree to an extent but I've only heard the inverse argument. A lot of resentment against them was fuelled by the perception that because they were middle class they were getting in the papers and that working class types would have had little sympathy. So I think it depends on your prejudices...

What Otis said, seconded

Boxing Day 1970. A Christmas present and the only time my dad took me even though he had watched City avidly in the Clarrie Bourton and old 5 days. I sat in the last seat on the West End side of the Sky blue stand and nearly froze to death. It was a 1-1 draw with 2 penalties, ours by Neil...

Their washing machine only does a hot wash?