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The NHS is on its knees and while covid has contributed it wasn't in a healthy state before that. The system is too fragmented, different companies running different services and seemingly nobody ensuring all the parts work together. Worst one I had was pre-covid. Went to the docs and got told...

Will there be room? Got to make sure there's space for the statues of Joy and Tim.

I'd always assumed George dropped off the radar due to ill health, would be sad if he was frozen out of the club in his final years. Having said that any ill feeling should surely fall away now the guy is dead. Would anyone at the club / council seriously block fan efforts to celebrate those...

I've wondered about this for a long time. Its one thing to have a finger in the air valuation when it comes to reporting to bondholders, its a whole other thing to persuade the likes of HSBC to accept such a valuation as security. Its not an unthinkable situation that the refinancing was on...

You would expect who is responsible for maintenance to be explicitly defined. Its either Wasps or CCC and with such a long lease I'd expect it to be Wasps. If its the responsibility of CCC then it wouldn't be the case they just fob Wasps off to the WMCA, that makes no sense. Realistically...

For some unknown reason he's got me blocked on twitter. Him, Maton and Wasps, what a hat trick :ROFLMAO:

Missions on BBC4 worth a look if you haven't seen it already.

looked into it as well but for the week worked out more expensive than I'd hoped. Being streamed for free on the ECB website for those who don't have Sky. You need to create a login but don't have to give card details or anything like that. https://www.ecb.co.uk

There seems to be a large section of Wasps fans who have convinced themselves that everything was good until covid came along. Did they miss the huge losses every year and the need to sell off future profits to CVC.

This is a point that needs to keep being hammered. There was a point blank refusal by the council to do anything to assist CCFC but they are constantly bending over backwards to help Wasps.

If it happens, and surely it can't happen again, it will no doubt start as a loan and then at some point when the heat is off be written off as a grant.

What time was this on, going to have to get it on iplayer as its hard to believe even Wasps fans can be that deluded. Wasps had a business plan in place, they were going to be the richest most successful club in Europe and the stadium was going to be sold out every week. With their track...

Doesn't look like they'd be welcomed back at Wycombe

Wasn't there something in the bond prospectus where there could be other claims to the lease in the event it all went tits up.

Been there done that and it didn't get a very positive response! Back when this all began there was a lot of incorrect information about the Ricoh saga being posted on there, to be fair it was a very long and complicated situation that most of us on here who have been following closely struggle...

What never ceases to amaze me is the head in the sand attitude Wasps supporters have. They get constantly lied to and misled yet laud their owners and never believe there to be the slightest thing to be concerned about. Its a very odd attitude. Their current situation is they are unable to pay...

And ACL was 50% owned by the council so they could argue they were protecting their investment. That's not the case now.

This is a good point. St Andrews is fucked and they are broke, if Wasps get given money you can be certain they will want a hand out as well. Isn't there a plan for some fairly major works at Villa as well? Sure they wouldn't mind the taxpayer picking up the bill.

Can't remember the exact quote, or even who was the council leader at the time and said it, but I can distinctly remember the council saying they wouldn't consider helping CCFC while they were losing millions every year, something about needing to get their own house in order first.