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I can't see any way the new stadium stacks up either. If you want to get the sort of revenue the Ricoh pulls in, then you'd have to build somewhere like the Ricoh. Instead, it seems we're talking about building somewhere like the New Meadow (Shrewsbury's ground, which holds less than 10,000)...

Thanks KH - your attendance or not at Sixfields shouldn't influence what people think about what you've got to say. We've all got to make our own choices. With regard to JS and TF, personally I don't trust them and I think there's stuff they've said there that could be challenged. Either way...

Yep, it depressed me a bit too. So I changed my settings to 100 posts per page. Now I've only got three pages of backbiting, sniping and accusations. Much better. ;)

I'm sure it is mostly about PR, but then it's a bit rich to criticise Joy for speaking to the media after complaining that she never does. Fwiw, even though I don't always agree with him I think Les Reid is a good interviewer and a straight journo. I suspect he might have drawn more out of JS...

Erm... actually I think there's considerable doubt here. Where did it say they'd pay off the mortgage in full? In fact, SISU's contention in their JR is that they would've paid off the mortgage at substantially less than the full rate, on the basis they could distress ACL and make Yorkshire...

Not quite sure what you're saying here. ACL are obviously a landlord (or were), and they own the arena (or at least the leasehold). You claimed the rent was excessive, but seem to accept that it covered the mortgage and that ACL didn't make a huge amount of money out of it. Again, how is that...

Right, that'll be the mortgage they paid to build the stadium. So the rent reflected the cost of the build then, rather than just being some exercise in excessive profiteering as you're claiming.

I'd dispute that, politely. All this move has done is given SISU an extension on how long they can maintain ownership of the club. If the FL had actually maintained their rules both before and after Administration I think the odds were that SISU would have gone by now.

Ah, traditionally you should just close your posts with 'end of'. Everyone knows that means that you're so right that there's no point in debating any further. ;) Let's just look at that 'excessive' claim. It wasn't excessive when SISU took over, or indeed for the first few years of their...

Quite. No answer from Grendel there, I note - or to me either. Seems like as soon as he knows he's lost the argument he either hides or changes the subject. Classic WUM, perhaps just better to ignore him, though I'd admit he is very good at getting bites. Anyway, work to do etc. My job...

Not sure we're making progress exactly, OSB, but I see where you're coming from. I'm also not sure whether SISU are making the structure of the club more or less complex, but my guess is it suits SISU to keep things generally as opaque as possible - they need to be ready to f*ck over the next...

Effectively a proportion of all taxes ends up with local government, because they are funded by a combination of local taxes and central funds. And you've got a serious answer, and you're disregarding it. The taxpayer would be worse off by the loss that the Council would incur by just giving...

I did that too - urged the Council to save the club and fund the arena. How wrong I was. The club has spent millions (if not tens of millions) on players and wages since then, and yet has somehow never had the money to buy back into the stadium, or seemingly now to pay the rent. And now...

Erm... assuming this is a serious question and not a pointless wind up (which is kind of a big assumption, given)... because of the value of ACL as it stands, and the value of it as an alternative development. And of course the money that the taxpayer has already sunk into it (10m grant, 14m...

And here's the key flaw to my mind in Les Reid's otherwise excellent article, the idea that the Council took a gamble on the football stadium, and now should accept a loss and sell to SISU for the good of the club. That's arse-backwards. The Council and the Higgs trust had to fund the...

Aww, really? I've only been here a few years so maybe I missed that. I remember when sentences used to start with capital letters; things move on, I try not to worry about it too much.

Dunno where my kids got hold of this book from, but I think it could be a million-seller in Cov. Timmy Failure, Mistakes Were Made. Sad thing is, they still are. I'm hoping Timmy Failure's next book is Crime and Punishment. ;)

It's rubbish isn't it, the new stadium plan. Everyone except the FL know it's never going to happen - in fact I think that by now even the FL know it, but they've painted themselves into a corner.

Thanks for your time - sorry about the nutters. This is what happens when you let them eat the blue smarties and stay up past their bedtime.

I think because there was really no choice in it; once SISU had filed for administration, they got to choose the administrator. Clearly ACL aren't happy now with how he's handled it. Might yet go back to court, perhaps.