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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No, people like you will be dead in 20 years, and we will be back in the EU by then, and people will be wondering wtf people like you were thinking about voting leave. Our grandchildren will be learning about loss of life in the Great War, the rise of right wing populism and it’s downfall after...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I think you should try basic maths rather than me seeking help.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No, actually I didn’t need to fit anything in to fit my hypothesis which is not just mine anyway. Try looking at various collages of Brexit press headlines and the panic of papers like the Express at thought of the UK signing the UN pact on migration which binds governments and the press to fact...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Oh really? The Nazis used fear of foreigners, in particular black people and Jews. Black French colonial troops were stationed in Germany after WW1 as occupiers and some were blamed for raping white women. Jewish refugees who had come from the East escaping Russian persecution were portrayed as...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I am for freedom, but not an economic free for all. There is a difference. Freedom to trample over your fellow human beings using your wealth as the libertarians tend to interpret liberalism is not my cup of tea. I was active in a trade union when I was younger and although I am now an employer...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Today, you are being quite reasonable. I said I don’t quote them and I didn’t see anyone else quoting them on here, but people parrot Brexit propaganda on here. It was obviously far more effective. One side was offering hope outside the EU ( selling blue sky ), and the other peddling fear. Many...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I never quoted any of those points. People obviously don’t ignore me otherwise you wouldn’t be on here insulting me.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Exactly. Why would anyone want to inflict damage on their own country? The subject was only bought up to pacify the right of the Tories. The voters were used to further a political ideology. The real problems for millions will not be solved by leaving the EU, in fact they may get worse. I would...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We’ve had that. Very biased and not convincing arguments. Weak attempt to distract from massive propaganda.
  10. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No, because the status quo will have been maintained and the immediate threat of economic chaos and the, at least short term, downfall will have been avoided. To go back to Brexit having avoided it would be madness.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    One person is perfect... Grendel. And no he can’t say why Fry, or Blair for that matter, is wrong in his arguments. Distract. Insult. Lie. The usual Grendel tactics.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I don’t care who points out the disgusting Brexit Press propaganda that copies Nazi propaganda or Farage‘s breaking point that copied Nazi propaganda. The point is that disgusting propaganda was used to frighten people and „press their buttons“. Not surprised that you distract.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Grendel says it’s crap.
  14. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What has that got to do with the content?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Looking forward to a second referendum to prove your point? Or scared of a referendum?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Stephen Fry has made a myth-busting video about Brexit and it's perfect
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They have now been exposed and they were at the most intense in the direct run up to the referendum. I don’t understand your question abou ta higher percentage of leave voters even the day before.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Because of an intense targeted campaign of dodgy ads in the short run up to the vote. Things returned to remain not long afterwards. If you equate the EU to a wife batterer, what do you equate scoundrels like Bannon ( wife batterer ), BoJo ( multiple philanderer ) and Farage ( collection of EU...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It is difficult as it is always on the news, in the headlines and all over the Internet. If you are still relying on carrier pigeons, you may not have noticed the ongoing debates on the subject.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well, you know that is not true. They reached their peak of 52% in June 2016 and it’s been downhill for most of the time since then. Latest figures 54% remain and 46% leave. Chances of May’s Brexit, virtually nil. GE virtually nil. Referendum with remain on the ballot, support growing. Do you...
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