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the deal on offer from Frasers runs to 2031? that's what we had previously, if that's not what is on offer its not the same

is he a slow reader? are you suggesting he's managed to deal with all the details to agree to a lease lasting centuries but can't cope with the details of a license with less than a decade to run

if the changes at the end of the season were going to be in our favour could Frasers just not sign us up to the existing deal on the current terms for the length previously agreed and then at the end of the season say 'hey we can actually offer you a better deal, are you interested?' I don't...

exactly. there's no way you look at the actions of Frasers and see anything but a kicking for the club coming at the end of the season. what Frasers should be saying is they will honour the terms of the existing license until it was due to expire, the fact they aren't saying that tells you...

the existing deal ran until 2031, the offer from Frasers only runs for a few months. Personally I don't see that as the same thing you've got this strange stance that anyone that doesn't fully back the action taken by Frasers / Ashley believes 100% in everything SISU do. its entirely possible...

the existing deal ran well past the end of the season so why would they change it? that's a huge red flag. we've criticised the club many times over the years for short term deals that mean we have the same problem over and over again so not sure we can really now turn round and criticise the...

Frankly I don't give a shit when they spoke, the fact remains we had an agreement in place and, despite your claims earlier today, Frasers are refusing to honour those terms. This is exactly what some of us were worried about when Ashley got involved but kept being told we needed tin foil hats...

you've just confirmed what shmmeee posted there. that says talks prior to completion not prior to the court date

What a surprise that it turns out its not the same terms as the current deal

there's nothing to grasp. the reports regarding eviction are either true or false and given the game at the weekend was moved I tend to lean towards it being true. I couldn't give a shit about SISU, Ashley, Frasers or anyone else, my concern is the club. You don't start an eviction process and...

not sure there's much they can do. their only options are fines, points deductions or the nuclear option of kicking us out of the league. they can't force Frasers to give us access to the stadium

I don't for a second believe SISU have anyones interest but their own at heart. It doesn't mean I believe Ashley and Hoffman are our saviours. They both have track records that leave a lot to be desired so when pretty much the first thing that happens under new stadium ownership is we're issued...

its not the same thing though is it. if you have an agreement with a company and that company still exists how do you end up with the agreement no longer being valid and a new one being required. Especially if we're supposed to believe the new agreement is on the same terms. I don't see in what...

Yet when it was flagged up as a potential issue that Ashley would try and pull this kind of stunt it was dismissed as impossible Why was the existing deal directly with Wasps and why would a new deal be directly with Frasers. Surely any deal to play at the stadium would be made with the stadium...

exactly this. if you want to take the club over threatening to evict the club is hardly the way to get the fans onside.

how do you class the club putting in a bid to own the stadium they play in as 'playing silly buggers'. they were perfectly entitled to put a bid in, in fact most people have been urging them to do that for years

If, as GIMOC suggests, there is a new deal on offer which is the same terms as the existing deal in place why is there even any need for a new deal. The company the deal was made with still exists doesn't it, why would the current deal not be valid?

at the very least you would do it as basic PR. if Frasers aren't in they wrong here why would they let their brand be trashed on a national level, this is quickly gaining traction with the likes of Sky News, MOTD, Linekar etc. if they aren't in the wrong would take them a matter of seconds to...

If that's the case we should see a statement from Frasers in the next few minutes saying the existing arrangement can and will continue

I hate SISU as much as the next person but that's stretching things beyond credibility to blame them for Frasers issuing an eviction notice