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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The ERG and DUP are blocking May‘s deal, not the remainers. You need to look at the media,
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The EU 27 have an agreement with the UK government. The UK government is trying to ratify the agreement. It cannot because of the UK Brexiteers and the DUP. The EU 27 have been through 2 years of negotiations to agree the deal. They are not going to start from scratch again a couple of working...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    ? Depends on the deal. Who else are we desperate to do deals with? USA: will rip us apart. China: already pissed off that we sent an aircraft carrier. They are massive in comparison to the UK India: the most protectionist country in the world according to some. No empire2.0 and so it goes on.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    People’s Vote is the name of the campaign for a second Brexit referendum campaign. „Remoaners“ is an insult from leavers with weak or non existent arguments. No comparison. Nice that people like myself are allowed to say remain. Thanks. I am not sure that your excuse for polls always showing...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We will have a close relationship with our biggest trading partner and therefore some sort of trade deal will be possible, and we may latch on to EU ROW trade deals,at least partly, through our regulatory alignment, or close regulatory alignment, to the EU. We are attempting to roll over a total...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It is amazing that he has to explain the bloody obvious to our government.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The EU doesn’t choose not to extend. The 2 years of internal squabbling about how we want to leave runs out. We can extend according to the EU. All we have to do is say why we want an extension, and the reason has to be a sensible one. Simples.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    True, but it’s not communists that are the leading populists in the Brexit debate.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Plus the NF were admirers of the Nazis. I heard John Tyndall speak in Coventry and noticed that he was throwing in direct quotes from Hitler into his speech. Martin Webster wanted all blonde bodyguard as as a sort of mini SS. Tyndall took part in Operation Spearhead in the early 60s and wore a...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What about it? Oh Tannenbaum Oh Tannenbaum... a German Christmas tune/ song They always do that , but I think that is more symbolic than anything else. Don’t remember Blair being particularly revolutionary..
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Farage was a NF supporter at School. His teachers were worried about his far right and racist views and didn’t want him to be a prefect. Especially after him singing Hitler Youth songs whilst pissed on a school trip. He is still on TV and radio more than most elected MPs. The good thing is that...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They would have 26 problems if they did.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I don’t think he will. His failure to commit to a people’s vote in a definitive way is prolonging the agony. The opportunity is there to unite most of the Labour Party and the opposition, including maybe Tory defectors behind a people’s vote. UKIP has become a right wing islamophobe party, and...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It isn’t a good result because we will have no say if we are not in it. If we want to stay close we will have to accept regulations without representation.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    See how Corbyn gets on with his meeting with the opposition. They may put pressure on him to do something together. I think the size of the people’s vote march may show the level of support for a new referendum. It will be hard to deny the support if it is even bigger than the last one.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yeah, but this is showing the hypocrisy of the man. Conning a few old blokes into walking in the rain whilst he is drinking in a pub.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Or she goes for a people’s vote and the EU will accept an extension.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No, just a fair and informed one. And another fine. Just in from Sky News: „The Information Commissioner's Office has fined 'Vote Leave' £40,000 after an investigation found it sent more than 196,000 text messages promoting the aims of the campaign ahead of the 2016 EU referendum and was...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Question 1: leave or remain as before. Remain majority = remain. Leave majority = leave. Second question: if leave were to win would you support a) May’s deal b) no deal Both questions must be answered or it is a spoiled vote. The vote would then be either ratifying May’s deal or no deal. No...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well the last time parliament was ignored it didn’t turn out to well. Better to stick to convention.
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