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  1. oldskyblue58

    Apparentl Joy threatens liquidation if half stadium is vetoed

    you could yes .......... but not sure you would entirely believe it :) . There is no element of synergy, partnership, etc displayed from the SISU camp,............ a reasonable person without other motive would contribute to the rent even if they couldnt meet the legally binding contract in...
  2. oldskyblue58

    CET: Richard shaw sacked

    dont disagree and the comment wasnt really aimed at MR - I like what I have heard so far from him - a proper manager. The "look at what was said etc " was a more general remark aimed at SISU and the Board. There is a lot said that folk take as gospel and fail to take in the "we hope" "it might"...
  3. oldskyblue58

    Apparentl Joy threatens liquidation if half stadium is vetoed

    my understanding would be that the option is there so the club have the first opportunity to purchase without competition for a specified period, usually there is a calculation for price set down but that could be open to negotiation............ after that and no deal done, once option period...
  4. oldskyblue58

    Apparentl Joy threatens liquidation if half stadium is vetoed

    nope not stating it as fact it is as with everything else i post in a discussion only my opinion ........... the facts are usually cold hard figures. so give me an alternative that makes sense :) ............. because if getting their hands on the charity shares was so vital to the club...
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    Apparentl Joy threatens liquidation if half stadium is vetoed

    if no alternative income found ................ but at some point CCFC has to pay something or cease to use it you would have to think...... if latter then ACL have to look at alternatives ........... what that means for ccfc is another matter. The reason they are not paying rent right now is...
  6. oldskyblue58

    A Revolution under Robins?

    early days yet .......... like what Robins says and the way he approaches things .......... lets actually get to consistently winning our games before deciding we are top six though. Yes it can be done but there has been a lot of damage done in recent years in terms of quality, confidence...
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    Apparentl Joy threatens liquidation if half stadium is vetoed

    cant get income off the share at the moment .............. it is presently illegal under the Companies Act to pay a dividend because ACL do not have accumulated profits from which to pay it. You do not just look at a profit in a particular year to be able to pay a dividend (the only way you get...
  8. oldskyblue58

    CET: Richard shaw sacked

    was always likely to happen .......... will depend on his contract terms what the settlement is but i would expect full pay till gets another equivalent or better job (ie paid as much). Think some of the judgements on his managerial career at CCFC are a little harsh...... everyone and his dog...
  9. oldskyblue58

    Apparentl Joy threatens liquidation if half stadium is vetoed

    bang bang :D ............. no not really i think you are right to a point .......... but it assumes that ACL make a profit, if it breaks even then the asset value doesnt change or if they lose money then the asset value goes down. Last figures showed ACL group made half a million ...
  10. oldskyblue58

    SISU 2012 accounts

    I guess we can sit back and await the exclusive in the CT now ...................:facepalm::whistle:
  11. oldskyblue58

    SISU 2012 accounts

    Also no mention of ARVO who have charge over CCFC assets in the accounts so assume that joy and dermot own that in some other way or if they dont that would be a large 3rd party creditor that would tend to dispel the myth that we are debt free to 3rd parties. not that we are debt free anyway...
  12. oldskyblue58

    SISU 2012 accounts

    I would bet she has her fingers in a lot of other pies Rich........... i doubt she is hard up
  13. oldskyblue58

    SISU 2012 accounts

    You never know blueflint strange things do happen ...............but who would want to buy a company with a £43m black hole in its investment portfolio :whistle: ......... as their investment portfolio decreases in value so that black hole becomes more and more prominent
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    SISU 2012 accounts

    Just checked the Companies House website. found a few things filed regarding SISU 1) Onye left SISU 14/09/12 2) SISU Capital Ltd accounts for 31/03/12 3) SISU Capital Partners for 31/03/12 so briefly ............ SISU Capital Ltd (Group Accs) made a loss of £167k (2011 losses £434K)...
  15. oldskyblue58

    Apparentl Joy threatens liquidation if half stadium is vetoed

    I think that we just have to accept where we think we are thegameaintstraight......... SISU are playing a long game both in terms of their objectives but also in terms the length of time to get this done. First off before they cash in on the overall plan they need the general economy to recover...
  16. oldskyblue58

    Apparentl Joy threatens liquidation if half stadium is vetoed

    exactly the place i said i thought that SISU have manouevered the club and council to ........... now if it all fails it will be the councils fault. They are relying on the council not having the nerve to play hard ball brinksmanship to whose benefit ? ............... certainly not CCFC's in...
  17. oldskyblue58

    thorn vs robins...

    andy who ? :laugh:
  18. oldskyblue58

    Hillsborough; The Truth At Last

    looks like they might actually try to get proper justice for those that died ....... two investigations IPCC and DPP looking at report with view to charges http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19922092
  19. oldskyblue58

    Joy seppala has steadied the ship!!

    Bottom line with all this is that it easy to please most fans ............ win a few games The mood of optimism is based on the recent record of 7 out of 9 points and a cup win and good night out in London where we were not disgraced. Optimism stems from the pitch .......... most fans have no...
  20. oldskyblue58

    Supporters Consultative Group

    thanks kingharvest i appreciate the background and the fact you are raising communication with the SCG. I firmly believe in the more communication the better
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