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we've not got any decent defenders coming through then .............. :) :whistle::laugh:

Thanks for the update Don Few questions if you don't mind 1) Did JS TF & ML all seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet? 2) your analysis seems to be based on SISU winning the JR what if they do not? Isnt their position weaker in that case? 3) how does the JR which ever way it goes...

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I think that SISU will take the option that maximises the return or minimises the damage. That may include liquidation and moving the tax losses around but it may include a lot of other options instead eg placing a sale, further restructuring, further down sizing, franchising, partnerships...

Liquidation is a possibility but at this point I do not think it is what will happen. That doesn't mean it wont I would have thought that the next step would be to "place" the club with new owners that allowed ARVO debt to remain in place in full. ARVO have a strong (strangle?) hold on Otium...

There is no contractual right for ACL to demand the payment of £590k from Otium as far as I know. Therefore no right of set off against any debt they believe they are owed for rent by CCFC Ltd. It is not a clause imposed on Otium by ACL. Did GR/MM actually pay anything? if so how much? -...

so my question would be ........... considering every tom dick and harry knew about the Escrow and the guarantees given by GR/MM why didn't the administrator know and account for it? Especially when the accounts for all the group companies mention the Escrow account GR and MM didn't pay the...

I think everyone seems to be looking at this as if it was one contract or deal and calling it all rent, it isn't. There are a number of different contracts between different parties. 1) The lease and licence between CCFC Ltd and ACL. Under this deal CCFC ltd stopped paying the rent and owed...

Good on you Don for taking the time to talk with TF etc then reporting back As I understand it there will be a fans forum at end of June. It would seem to be targeted at telling the fans what has gone on from year dot and "could" include "discussion" of the finances. I can not see that the...

The Trust have put up an online Survey for fans to complete. The link is on the Trust website. I assume all members will get an email about it. It is open to non members too. http://www.skybluetrust.co.uk/ survey can be accessed by the fan tab at top of screen but the email I received has a...

RobS is there now a shift in the strategy of GCBTR? Previously it was a group that was filling a gap in the fans campaign by putting pressure on the Council. The election statement seems to suggest it is now the fans campaign for putting pressure on everyone. How are you doing that? and are...

Except for the next couple of months there are no matches to show any placards. The KCIC campaign was aimed at the governance of the game using CCFC as an example. This is aimed at those actually involved at CCFC and the Ricoh questioning all why more is not being done to get our club home...

Nice enough guy from what I can tell. It cant be an easy job to put together a squad and manager under the constraints on the club. Talks a lot of sense on footballing matters I think for every positive there is at least equal negative Brought in Pressley & Robins ....... I would assume he...

we can but hope and dream CC4L ............ it cant be crap for ever can it !!!??? surely

the OP is wrong in so many ways :facepalm:

I would think that both the PSL and the bricks were taken out through CCFC as owned by CCFC H. In which case the contract for both is with that company and that is where the claim would lie. Only trouble with that is that neither CCFC H nor CCFC Ltd have any assets or cash and are about to be...

Don't think it did. The liability is payable Otium as a condition for being awarded the Golden share The £1.5m was paid by Otium 27/06/13 the CVA rejection and awarding the share happened 02/08/13. There is a breakdown of what was bought by Otium or included in the 27/06 deal and the...

Yes very true but what happens if they had already spent it and needed to bring it right before being checked by the FL? Wouldn't they do the same thing to avoid an embargo perhaps? They set the season up on a particular budget with still paying some high wages until players moved on. No way...

Not sure it is fiddling the books Jack. The income is declared a creditor repaid from the proceeds and new shares created. Not sure where it breaks any rules, also not saying they have done it. As we all know the FL regulations are full of holes if the owners can take advantage in this case for...

it does fp if it is for the same rateable part of the site. The whole site is split in to 9 different areas currently each with a rateable value, separate reference number and rates bill. The one that SISU have appealed is a specific area shared by CCFC and ACL. That whole shared area has one...