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So are you saying that the broken lease by Sisu, apparently worth £40million(which I remember you getting very aerated about) was actually worthless and had no value? Surely the 40 years of future income from that lease would have been factored into the value of ACL at the time? Therefore the...

The trading business has been pretty consistent all along, not an awful lot of growth, and with the anchor tenant and subsequent footfall loss will be struggling to maintain an even line, let alone "horizontal growth". More likely to be what you would call "downward growth".

Simple way to answer it really. ACL's lease was valued at £18.7 million in the last accounts. What was it valued at in previous accounts? If it was lower and has been increasing to that value then i will gladly admit i was wrong.

Because ACL are being distressed or they are not. I'm firmly in the Sisu are distressing ACL camp to gain the Ricoh. You think that ACL are financially able to survive without the club. I can't be in the latter group if I believe the first, or vice-versa.

I disbelieve the statement that the Olympics had a negative effect on trading when turnover waas vrtually doubled becuase of it. That seems to be just one of many, many things that you fail to grasp. You failed to get back on whether the value of ACL increases(as all the grown-ups think...

Possibly, but who really knows as yet? Always thought that ACL particularly badly run, never seems to get many concerts(have any been announced for this year yet?), and often don't get "return" business once people are back on the circuit, Not had Heineken Cup for about 6 years, didn't get the...

No conspiracy, just that people who tend to be so forcefully wrong on one issue, tend to be so on many others.

As has been pointed out, many, many times, by many, many people, including OSB, we can't say how well or not that ACL are doing yet.

I think so, but then again I've never gone on about how brilliantly ACL are doing aand are going to continue to do without the club. Some seem able to hold two contrasting opinions at the same time.

I'm not saying that, but was the view of most on The Ricoh until a piece of concrete became more important than the football club to the majority of the fans and the owners. Sisu and the fans a perfect match, as long as they get the Ricoh the club doesn't matter.

Seeing as there have not yet been any accounts for the time since we have moved out and the most recent accounts even with a near doubling of turnover because of the Olympics led to reduced profits then it still remains to be seen how well they are doing without the club. I find it strange...

I can't wait til we get back to the Ricoh aand we can go back to moaning about how "it's too big", "No atmosphere", "too far out of town", "parking is crap", "food and beer overpriced and too cold and warm respectively", and not being able to give away any spare tickets for love or money.

So you're saying that a boycott is pointless from a financial point of view?

Merely based on the length of the lease shortening each year? Would lose value correspondingly I'd have thought?

Surely the value of ACL would go down every year?

You were claiming that I was casting aspersions upon their "projections" that the hypothesis that the Olympics curtailed their business when there has been virtually no difference year on year in turnover apart from the Olympic "blip". Do you doubt their assertion now, or do you agree with...

Think that for most,if not all, of that 2011/12 year they received full rent. Don't know why it moved up from the previous year, could have been Compass payment of £4million? Generally been averaging around the £6.5million per year though. Next years will give us more of an indication anyway...

This is a thread going over the same old crap anyway. Nice way to engage with those who do go though, "the Shitfields 1000".

Yes, which makes it pretty much neutral, year on year, on year, which is why having the Olympics was never going to be the money-spinner that some made it out to be. Still doesn't explain how having the Olympics impacted on them based on previous years figures.

Especially as most would be wondering how to pronounce it. "Come on you Spinks", "No, think it's Sfinks", "Oh, right Come on you Suffinks?" "Don't think that's right either?" "What colour are we?"