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So do I take it that we are agreeing that SISU's complete lack of communication - particularly in the current circumstances - demonstrates either that they are quite staggeringly inept or that they really don't give a toss about the club?

I agree with the sentiment. Perhaps my cynical side has been brought out too much, but I think SISU have given up on the club as a "going concern" and are now looking to minimise their losses before they get out. Perhaps if we end up with new owners there'd be a chance to recapture some of...

OK, let's accept for a moment that there is no cash and that SISU are not in a position to raise any more cash. Let's accept that selling your leading (only?) goalscorer, when you need all the goals you can get to avoid relegation (which will cost you millions) and when he will still have a...

That's lovely in theory, but you need a reason for people to go. I'm pretty fanatical. I've been going since the late 60's and I've had a seaon ticket since the mid 70's. My wife organised a surprise weekend away for next weekend as part of my Xmas present. Any other year, I'd have been...

I think that's what a number of us have been trying to point out in relation to the way the club's being run.

As someone once said - there's only one certain way to make a small fortune - start with a big fortune and buy a football club.

How much more would we have to pay for the fire certificate?

"Flatly" rejected. It's quite normal for an initial bid to be rejected - it's called negotiating. Flatly rejected is "please leave and don't bother coming back" Do you know something?

I can't remember where I read it, but at the time Clouting was appointed someone who claimed to know him, wrote that when he was originally interviewed for the CEO's role, SISU (I'm guesing it was Onye, but I don't know that) said that their idea was to sell the higher earning players and...

As above Torchy, not a shock. Sadly I think we expected it. I guess there was a tiny hope somewhere that the owners of our club might have wanted to at least try to give us a chance of staying up - and after all, would Juke have been worth so much less in July with still a full year left on...

Within about a week of each other, we signed Colin Stein and then Tommy Hutchison. How we need a week or two like that now!!!

I think that Colnel Mustard is correct, that JE was only an "Associate Director" in the 90's. That was just a courtesy tiltle - it didn't mean he was on the Board. I'm not sure when he actually went on the Board, I think it was about the time we went to the Ricoh - but I'm not sure about that...

I was there. Probably wouldn't have gone as I was living in Bristol at the time and it was a feezing cold day with snow forecast, but a guy I was working with at the time had been at university with one of the Warburton family (the bakers - who owned Bolton at the time) and he'd been told we...

In most private equity style deals, "investment" is pimarily done by way of loans rather than share capital. This is partly because loans are so much more flexible for the investor, but also largely because of the preferential tax treatment that the interest payments on the loans attract. As...

"The loans cannot be defaulted" - as long as the club/company exists. If we assume no takeover then SISU will have to continue to fund any losses. Ken D told us that the club was moving towards break-even "by the summer", but that relegation would be "a disaster". So that suggests that SISU...

"ALL publicity is good publicity" - Discuss

Wingy - I'm assuming that any payment for the shares would be a nominal sum (Hoffman's famous £1), so any "real" money would be in settlement of SISU's loans.

I agree that the key issue is the loans, but don't believe that any sane businessman would pay the loans in full or "a large chunk of them". Putting any issues of blame to one side, the situation is that SISU's investment in the club (whatever the true figure is) has gone badly wrong. SISU's...

Agreed - many thanks to Jan et al

The lost decade :(:(