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I'm not asking you to apologise, or surpress your opinion. I was just expressing my opinion in saying that I think Sisu have some users thinking that all parties in this saga act the same way as them. If we are talking about who is right and wrong on the terms of orignal rent deal then both...

I suppose it would be an ironic name. Maybe that is how Seppala sees herself? Two Women One of these Women made the greatest sacrifice, a Woman who defied the men around her at a time when Women had little rights, a woman who's actions help turn this City into one of the finest in Europe...

The problem with some on here is that they judge everyone by Sisu's own grubby standards. There seems to be an argument that if your in business, anything is acceptable and you always look after number 1. I maybe being naive here, but the world isn't like that, and I've certainly not seen...

Good. Hopefully it involves Joy Seppala and Tim Fisher heading off to North Korea to take over Pyongyang City Sports Club. They might disagree with Kim Jong-un on economic policy, but when it comes to media censorship, Sisu could show him a fair few things.

Basically they don't want to pay back rent then? Yet still try and take the moral high ground. They way Sisu operate is disgusting and I hate them for tarnishing the name of our Football club.

<p> Well hopefully PK4 is being honest when he says he is a football fan.

Isn't this basically what Ken Bates did at Leeds? I think what needs to be looked at is why Sisu would want to stay at the club? They will never get their money back so I can't understand what their plan is.

<p> Ok, so assume since 2005 ccfc had owned the Ricoh, paying zero rent and receiving all the income. The club would still not have broke even in a single year since then. You yourself said the Ricoh had not been used to its full potential, here is an opportunity for that to happen while...

Without redevelopment the football club has no sustainable future.

Car park C was to be developed under the original plans.

<p> Unless we won, which we wouldn't, as the team is spineless and lets the fans down on the big occasions.

<p> So why not just use the events team already in place by buying Acl as a subsidiary of ccfc?

Paxman, are you proposing then that ccfc should be responsible for organising concerns, exhibitions and shows at the Ricoh? Seems a strange remit for a football club.

It wouldn't be decided by any single Councillor, something like this would have to go to a full Council vote.

<p> Of course, in fact you know all of my opinions based on a few forum posts. Whilst I would like the club to own the ground, as long as it gets the income streams it makes no practical difference.

Whats the obsession with stadium ownership? As long as the club receives income streams I wouldn't care if it was owned by John Mutton's Auntie Ethal.

When they said something you disagreed with?

Better than nothing I suppose.

Why don't you join the trust then and change it rather than just knocking it?

Unless we won, but our spineless team haven't won an important game like that since 1987 so I guess we will never know.