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Juke has been consistently difficult to play against this season. Defenders generally know they've been in a game; he will run them across the park and holds the ball up really well. His goal tally has improved this season and he will be a huge loss (just look at the goals tally for the rest of...

Jesus, I've been accused of a few things but now I work for SISU!

Yeah, it does read as if I am a member of the fan club, if not the family. In truth, I barely know the bloke, although he comes across as good intentioned. I've just been speaking with someone who does know him, who saw scepticism on here and thought it wholly misplaced. It seemed to me to be...

I saw today that Juke is going and we are likely to get Alex Nimely, a loanee, to replace him. I'm sure that has rightly dominated the chat on here, so this is slightly off topic. I haven't had a browse on here for a little while, but have been prompted to share what I know of Joe Elliott. Joe...

(By the way, I am well aware that announcing the salary of your new manager is not common practice and it might have been hearsay or just completely inaccurate... I just seem to remember thinking that sounded comparatively low for a Championship manager).

I have a feeling it was announced when he was appointed and seem to remember it being £100k for the one year contract. Could be wrong, so put your howls of derision on hold. I think the point is being missed again... the fans on here are well aware of the cost of going down. We are aware that...

I absolutely agree. If you are regularly saying 'Thorn Out', you should be able to say 'X In', otherwise you just come across as sounding off about dissatisfaction about the general demise of your club. Given that SISU are loathe to improve the playing staff and are much more likely to sell than...

Cancel that, I was thinking of John the Baptist (Fisher of Men). There you go, bit of Jesus shaped banter this Christmas.

He is either one of the disciples. Or some other tit soon to be involved in the demise of CCFC. (Unless he is a good guy, I don't know either). No need to thank me, pay it forward.

Well, that's bollocks..!

Yeah, it might have been a bit petulant, but the discussion was going round in circles. You advocate sacking the manager, I am stating this will not happen and your frustrations are misguided. We are not going to agree and the same discussion appears on almost every thread (this one was about...

It was £400k and we had just recouped money from Ben Turner's sale. There was more outcry about the lack of any signing than there are calls for Thorn's head. The rest of the profit you mentioned seeped into SISU, let's keep our fingers crossed that they spend it on improving the football club...

We have SISU in charge, we can make an educated guess of the managerial possibilities. I understand your frustration. Now tell me, basing it on what we know of SISU's investment and the fact AT is a rookie manager, promoted from Chief Scout and potentially on the lowest wages in the League...

Who would you replace him with, baring in mind you are assuming the role and midset of SISU. I'll make it easy for you... you have a choice of Lee Carsley, Gregor Rioch, Steve Harrison or Ken Dulieu.

You almost had me, but I am not a 'Thorn apologist' and my opinion is that it is 'not the manager so much as the board or the squad'. Maybe not simplistic enough for this cyclical argument, see you all on the next one.

That's it. No one is claiming Thorn has not contributed at all to our downward spiral. He is a rookie manager, in his first post, he has made mistakes. As I say, I don't think these crop up as often as stated by some, but that is by the by. I hold SISU responsible for our current plight. I think...

This. Still.

I wasn't saying that. I think we have sacked too many managers in recent times. I think the priority is a new board, rather than a new manager. I think SISU's lack of investment would preclude paying Andy Thorn off and paying Sean O'Driscoll in. It would not be O'Driscoll's first managerial role...

And this is Thorn's fault > SISU's fault? I don't understand your point, I am saying he did not set the world alight and this is not exclusively down to the fact that Thorn did not play him in the hole every week.

CUS Wyken... This argument is going to play itself out on a daily basis on a number of threads that started in reference to something else entirely. I'm going to opt out of it as I have done little enough work today as it is (sorry). The only question that crops up in response to all that you...