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I haven't seen or heard anything to suggest that SISU want to sell - in fact they keep saying the club is not for sale - over and over and over again. It's Hoffman who want to buy, so as sad as it may be, the terms and conditions that will make SISU change their mind is very different to...

Is there evidence they have 'sucked' out half a mil a year before? I don't think accrued interests counts as the money doesn't leave the club and as suggested in this thread (and elsewhere) sisu probably won't see either the loans or the interests paid back. If they aren't interested in selling...

I wasn't trying to dis-prove any of your original analysis, just show how far apart they might be. As you put it very accurately in your last sentence above it must be a deal appealing to all, and just because Hoffman says his offer is too good to be turned down, or a professor says the value of...

I don't believe £3m up front would be acceptable - but I am often wrong. Putting myself in their position I would want at least £8m up front to cover the ARVO investments and either additional £ to cover some of the accrued interests and some £ for initial investors as well. So I guess it will...

Could well be like peeing in your pants on a cold winter day. Warm feeling at first - then it gets really, really cold.

There are indeed. Early 2012 - CCFC and ACL agree a roadmap for CCFC to acquire half ACL. Summer 2012 negotitiations break down. Summer 2012 Wasps starts talking to ACL. Do the dots connect? Co-incidence? Where were Hoffman then?

Hmm - facts alone are just 'dots'. We need someone who can connect the dots. Not long ago reports of mediation popped up - that's a dot. Then loud pleas not to buy ST's - that's another dot. Now this take-over offer - that's the latest dot. Do the dots connect?

Would you pledge your money before you know what you get? What is 'fan ownership' and what kind of influence would I have for say £1000? What will the money be spend on - will it be going to SISU? Knowing that Elliott is part of Hoffman's group, what security do I get that he will not come...

Interesting - so far 80% says 'yes'.

It's not a negotiation until both parties are prepared to do a deal.

SISU sell to Hoffman -> club signs long term rent deal at the Ricoh -> New name sponsor revealed at the Ricoh -> Delayed valuation of the Ricoh stays the same -> WASPS bond scheme secured

But was Wolves owner prepared to sell? Then everybody was happy to find a price. SISU seem not prepared to sell, so normal valuation is pointless. Forget the spreadsheets and go ask them directly the question we all want the answer to: What will it take for you to sell - what terms and...

Why would he? It's so much more fun playing the Machiavellian game. Most of the above is true - but the premise is false. In your example the club was 'for sale' - apparently our club is not. So totally different pricing principles. How much do you think she wants for the club? If nobody is...

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Well, that was not what I meant. The money from the investors should be in form of equity. A more straight forward method would be for the investors to pay SISU directly the amount equal to 50% of asset sales and other add-ons. This way it wouldn't burden the club and also it would be in the...

Alternatively the investors commit to inject cash into the club to offset the payments to SISU.

Maybe WASPS are backing Hoffman? Is that likely?

The question should be 'what would SISU say is a decent offer'?

Exactly. They seem to totally ignore that SISU are not interested in a deal that will force them to realise a huge loss in exchange for a few pounds and promisses of more if the future is bright and positive. To me it underlines that Hoffman is the wrong man for the job. He need to understand...

Boardroom Doesn't seem the club has a CEO.