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What pressures caused Cameron to have to let there be a referendum and how did those pressures then cause leave to win it? Cameron just facilitated it. Any other Tory PM could have been in the seat at the time. He is not the root cause. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No they won’t blame everyone else. They’ll blame Brexiters for Brexit. Who else should they blame? The Brexiters own this so don’t try and paint it as me being “one sided”. How utterly ridiculous. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Of course it isn’t the same. Remain is the status quo and remainers aren’t blaming the wrong people for their ills or when their fantasy plans don’t come to fruition. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

True. There is no route out of this mess that doesn’t cause harm and whatever happens the Brexiters will still blame everyone else and vent their anger at something. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sure, that was the reason for holding the vote but there are a lot of reasons as to why some MPs back it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That’s exactly what it is, mates cashing in. Slowly the real reasons for Brexit become clear. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Always the same Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I like Hiwula but he looked lost and disinterested today. No idea how he stayed on and Chaplin went off. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That was pretty funny though Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

As a sort of opposite anyone remember Kevin Kyle dragging an injured opposition player off the pitch to try and get the game going again ?[emoji23] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Where can we place a bet? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I do think he sits so deep our overall shape is ruined and then Bayliss is limited going forward. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I keep thinking the same thing and then they’ll be a game where Doyle seems to be everywhere at the right time. Added to the fact Ogogo has looked worse since the first game and Kelly isn’t fit yet I just don’t know what to think. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Arrested for protesting? Is that an offence in America? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That would be my preferred option too if Kelly and Ogogo can get their fitness up to decent levels. Doyle can still be rotated and I think Thomas would be better as an impact sub. However, I don’t think Doyle will be dropped and I think if he was we would miss him unless Ogogo can be the...

It is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Tripped anyone who broke forward and got behind the ball. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Poor free kick by Jones. Should we start getting on his back yet or give him a few more minutes? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

A forced change. What do you want? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Anyone else think we’re playing pretty well, if a little scruffy? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk