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  1. Sky Blue Pete

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    Just checked the sentencing guidelines https://www.criminaldefencebarrister.co.uk/criminal-defence-barrister-blog/2020/violent-disorder-section-2-public-order-act-1986/ So one can argue that the sentencing guidelines are out of kilter but (and I’m not suggesting you were, were you? ) you...
  2. Sky Blue Pete

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    And free speech advocates often just mean they want the freedom to say what they like when they want but not allow other to say anything often Great phrase on free speech here and it’s where I am but again within reason It’s in west wing series about someone standing on a street corner...
  3. Sky Blue Pete

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    It does say something when a huge proportion of our society thinks fuck it you should be able to say what you want without consequences To be fair I think that too and it should be a very high bar before you break the law and higher before you’re imprisoned
  4. Sky Blue Pete

    Southport Stabbing

    Thank you I was going to check my facts but thought sod it im sure someone else will know I’m so lazy sorry
  5. Sky Blue Pete

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    Her defence appears to have been I’m guilty of inciting racial hatred and despite guidance from the solicitor on how to minimise her sentence she ignored it and then appealed on the grounds of she wasn’t told about it and the appeal judges said tjats incredible and not credible I’m now of the...
  6. Sky Blue Pete

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    I hope so too I fear though that much like the Lucy Connolly case there will be a nuance around using words rather than actually doing it and her problem was what she said and when she said it and then ignoring the advice of the solicitor and then gettting a new one to use the victim approach to...
  7. Sky Blue Pete

    Southport Stabbing

    Yep legislation in 86 was in response to poll tax riots probably and 2020 sentencing was down to Boris and his mates
  8. Sky Blue Pete

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    I still don’t get the two tier system argument And it’s certainly can’t be laid at the door of keir starmer unless from him time at dpp The rest is a reasonable challenge to the justice system but ffs Boris doesn’t take the time to find out facts and evidence it’s all pomp and bluster and...
  9. Sky Blue Pete

    Southport Stabbing

    Judiciary nothing to do with the current government policy or persuasion. The law was from 1986 and the sentencing guidelines from 2020. The judiciary are experts at the law
  10. Sky Blue Pete

    Southport Stabbing

    That’s how I read it
  11. Sky Blue Pete

    Southport Stabbing

    Yep
  12. Sky Blue Pete

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    The tweet itself is clearly abhorrent and a rant fully expecting that nothing would be done and she and her friends would have a right laugh about it I’d love to read the discussions when it was made clear she was in the shit Looks like the solicitor was in agreement with the severity of the...
  13. Sky Blue Pete

    Championship thread 25/26!

    Should be points after a while rather than money They clearly don’t give a shit
  14. Sky Blue Pete

    Southport Stabbing

    You haven’t read the appeal transcript have you? https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Lucy-Connolly-v-The-King.pdf
  15. Sky Blue Pete

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Bill Gates the billionaire who is working on giving his riches away before passing away Give me 10 Bill Gates over Elon Musk
  16. Sky Blue Pete

    Southport Stabbing

    Makes sense which is why it was an open door to get released if that’s what the appeal was about For me this feels like she’s being used politically but not by starmer
  17. Sky Blue Pete

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    No one will be to blame but we’ll all pay
  18. Sky Blue Pete

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Such a. Disingenuous wanker
  19. Sky Blue Pete

    Southport Stabbing

    Be worse when reform get in
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