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The plan is almost certainly to refinance, perhaps another bond issue or perhaps something like like a mortgage or could they float on the stock exchange? The simple fact of the matter is they won't be able to repay the money in 7 years time without doing that but that shouldn't be a problem as...

Of course you can complain, Lib Dems wanted proportional representation not AV and the public were seriously uninformed, it's not exactly the simplest of systems, thats my biggest worry for the conservatives winning, a referendum on Europe is going to be decided by millions of uninformed people...

They did but they already held Clacton

1 less ukip seat :-)

This is me "insisting" that it was "inevitable" that there would be a repayment charge A completely reasonable comment and not insisting anything as you always do (normally wrongly.)

I've always thought and said that wasps got the Ricoh cheap, its you that always said it was worthless, I didn't insist an early repayment penalty would be inevitable but of course you know that, I've always thought and said the council had a good loan deal with wasps, you are the one that...

21 mill as the value of ACL will go up with the paying off of the 14mill loan, it's also secured against both wasps and ACL but yes the prospectus values the Ricoh at 40m or so.

I agree, people should temper there expectations though, if you are starting nearly from scratch, have the 8th best budget, need to put the systems in place then for the first season just finishing 8th is a good result, hopefully then you can push on the season after that.

I hope he can be, but if you have the 8th place budget, are needing to sign nearly an entire team for free and you currently have no scouting information and are just going to put the correct systems into place then you are much more likely to have a consolidation season than a promotion one...

Sure but hopefully pushing for a play off spot still isn't really what we should be going for is it? and that is alot less exciting that if he had stayed and been backed financially. It's still great news if he stays and terrible news if he doesn't. It's just not the amazing news we thought it...

It's not as exciting as it would have been though, I think most of thought for Mowbury to stay he was going to need to be backed financially and that hasn't turned out to be the case, had he stayed then it meant sisu had backed him financially and we'd have had a real shot of things changing, if...

The fact he isn't asking for any investment at all just the ability to direct the money himself makes me alot more confident he will stay,

Fine Now I'm done. A waste of 2 mins of my life sure.

You didn't say he was a member of the council, that was my misunderstanding when you were obviously infering he is a member of wasps. Thats my point, just making snide comments about who someone is causes misunderstandings. anyway this is getting silly now, off to do something else.

You did say that, You posted a couple of times that we don't know who has brought the bonds, I thought it was just a silly irrelevant point, someone else said it does matter if it's the council that has brought them, I said oh I didn't realise thats what Grendel was inferring, your response was...

This is the exact problem with your half and half approach isn't it. If you know for sure someone is a significant player in this saga, out them, ban them, or shut up about it. Any of them are valid, anything else leads to misunderstandings and unfair judgements.

I have no issue with critasing that sort of behaviour, but read the few posts, there is no suggestion whatsoever that he was inferring the council were buying up wasps bonds, if he is a member of the council why would he tell people that? it's the complete opposite of what he would be doing, so...

I'm just judging on what he has posted over the past few days which is completely fair and reasonable, none of it is naughty or inferring anything. His whole purpose here isn't my business, nore do I have any knowledge of what he previous has done or said, having been accused of being other...

saying intheknow inferred that the council were buying up wasps bond issue. It should only take you 10 seconds to read through his posts again and see not a single one of them can be considered that way at all. Nick said it too, he was mistaken, you though are being mischievous which seems to be...

Says the guy who responded with a "no you are" type response that the average 5 year old thinks is low wit. The obvious continuation was with a "your mum" I'd have been remiss not to play along. moving back from your diversion, you now accept that you made it up that intheknow inferred that the...