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  1. oldskyblue58

    Appeal Dismissed

    Why jump in now ? ...... surely it would be best to sit tight? In any case Seppala wont be interested until this court action has run its course. Would be pointless putting a bid in now
  2. oldskyblue58

    Appeal Dismissed

    Not questioned it nick but not understood. Anyone who has said SISU need to put more transfer money in, SISU have had a change of heart, SISU should stop the legals etc ........... They look at it from a CCFC point of view that is not understanding SISU
  3. oldskyblue58

    Appeal Dismissed

    Not really surprise news. I assume the Otium name is still on the documents filed ? Perhaps now people will finally understand that the SISU driving force in all this are their investors not CCFC. Wasps could do a short term deal if they chose to (i think they will in the end) but they are...
  4. oldskyblue58

    Evans

    The match stats do not bear out his argument and his histrionics are frankly childish & embarrassing
  5. oldskyblue58

    Evans

    It's still fraud and illegal.
  6. oldskyblue58

    Match Thread Coventry City vs. Peterborough United Match Thread - Friday 23rd Nov

    Hopefully we will wipe that smug smile off Evans face. Realistically I think a nil nil draw though
  7. oldskyblue58

    Programme notes

    Sorry but you are wrong . Liverpool doesn't exist within FSG man Utd within the glaciers etc totally different set up...... ccfc exists as a trading name within otium. Otium is and includes all assets and rights and liabilities of "ccfc" to the extent they are one and same thing. In much the...
  8. oldskyblue58

    Appeal Dismissed

    I think most people on here believe that SISU will continue with their legal process..... personally i do not think that belief will prove to be wrong. Having got to where we are i fully expect an application to the Supreme Court The statement from the "club" is of course trying to create some...
  9. oldskyblue58

    Appeal Dismissed

    The possibility for legal action, if there is any, is to bring a civil case on the basis that various parties have been deliberately unreasonable (not that they have broken the law) and that has caused damage to the SISU "good name", the investment and the business. It is not a clear cut case of...
  10. oldskyblue58

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    the brexiteers are saying renegotiate and appoint a new PM because they have no confidence in this one. This all takes time, and if the 27 EU members have approved the deal on the table then that is going to be the deal they will stick to isnt it? There is no incentive for them to compromise...
  11. oldskyblue58

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    seem to remember two recent votes that contributed to us arriving at this mess in the first place........... total miscalculations
  12. oldskyblue58

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    after all the self interest and ego, lack of leadership, double talk and double standards, misleading statistics, media and campaigns plus general skulduggery is it any wonder that the vast majority of the population have no trust or faith in politicians and the political process. As a nation we...
  13. oldskyblue58

    Match Thread Burton Albion vs. Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 17th Nov

    not an easy game. I am not confident and fear a 1 nil loss
  14. oldskyblue58

    callum wilson value

    Thought Callum Wilson did ok last night. It wasnt a bad start in international football at all. I would far rather see him in the England team than Wellbeck or Vardy. Glad he got his goal but he missed a couple that at international level should have been scored - maybe put that down to nerves...
  15. oldskyblue58

    Appeal Dismissed

    But thats why i said you have to look at the group situation....... the ACL sub group could be a going concern and could be carved out of the Wasps holdings group.......Wasps going bust doesnt necessarily mean ACL has to, but if it did then the lease reverts to CCC. The freeholder of any site...
  16. oldskyblue58

    Appeal Dismissed

    Just curious......but valuing the ground for who though? The freehold is valued at nil by CCC in the council accounts - has been for years. The lease was valued by KPMG for CCC and then by Strutt & Parker LLP and Gerald Eve LLP for Wasps...... was he from one of those? Didnt the recent court...
  17. oldskyblue58

    Appeal Dismissed

    actually i didnt. The lease is worth £60m in the current trading set up ie as a going concern. If it all went bust then it would have no worth to Wasps because it would be Wasps going bust. The 250 years reverts to whatever is left on the original lease which would still be owned by ACL. Where...
  18. oldskyblue58

    Appeal Dismissed

    Just a couple of points The litigation has been against CCC, with Wasps Holdings and Higgs Charity as interested parties. ACL has been "involved" in that it was the asset purchased by Wasps Holdings ACL owns the lease valued at £60m and as such is a company you wouldnt want to go bust ACL has...
  19. oldskyblue58

    Wasps 18/19FY Financial Results

    double edged sword though, would the fans wear playing outside of the city again? In which case SISU would damage the CCFC income just as much as the Wasps income. There is no great naming rights income at the moment and Wasps would lose the F&B etc profits they get now So no i dont think that...
  20. oldskyblue58

    Wasps 18/19FY Financial Results

    Not quite correct. Depends what it is you buy in to. You have to look at the group situation and break it down ACL owns the lease valued at £60m. That is given as security to the bond. However ACL owes £14.4m to Wasps Finance PLC not the full 34m. ACL had a turnover in 2017 of £9m. ACL also...
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