Blog post about CCFC from a Luton fan (1 Viewer)

SlowerThanPlatt

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Found this on Twitter. Decent (embarrassing) reading.

It’s a bit bizzare how this blog post has come to fruition. On Saturday, I was on my way to Birmingham by train and I was joined by three old, mildly drunken Coventry City fans. We got talking football as you do, “football died once the FA got their wish for our top league to be money orientated” moaned one of the men. I would agree, it’s almost impossible for a club to spend little and achieve success nowadays. Even the Bournemouth ‘fairytail’ was a bit of a myth – they spent millions to get where they are.

Anyway, back to my original point of this blog. Around halfway through the journey, one of the Coventry fans told me that they had not finished in the top 6 of any league for 45 years. I laughed it off, not a chance I told him! 45 years without a top 6 finish, it just can’t be true.

The sad reality is: it is true. Coventry City have not finished in the top 6 of any league for 45 years. 30 of them were in the top division but that isn’t the point. The people of Coventry haven’t seen a winning football team for 45 years. The highest place Coventry City have finished in the last 10 years is 14th in League One, it makes for appalling reading.

I am a Luton Town fan, just like Coventry a club who’s been horrifically mismanaged in the past. I’ve been a massive fan since I was twelve but I would have to question why I’m wasting my money year on year if we didn’t finish in the top 6 of any league for 10 years – never mind 45! If my club didn’t show any ambition of moving the club forward on the pitch then why should I spend my hard earned money on a club what’s only falling year by year?

They must be the most loyal and patient fans in England. Putting it into context is hard – it’s almost impossible. The only scenario I can compare it to is a 100m sprinter who always finishes near the bottom in every single race, never troubles the top, yet still turns up week in week out hoping one race it’ll change. You’d probably give up after a few years because of pure boredom, knowing you’ll never be near the top – imagine that for 45 years, that’s what Coventry City fans have had to suffer. Year on year of bottom half finishes.

The last time the Sky Blues finished in the top 6, Paul McCartney announced his departure from The Beatles…

It looks like it could change for the Sky Blues this year, experienced Tony Mowbray is in charge and is building a good young squad which could break Coventry’s 45 year old hodoo. Young loanee from Newcastle Adam Armstrong has been the shining light, scoring 5 in 4 games. However, with Coventry’s luck, he will be recalled in the next few weeks and it’ll be 46 long years without a top 6 finish.

Clubs like Everton and Newcastle complain about not winning a major trophy for many years but Coventry?They’d be happy with 6th in League 1! Not asking for too much, is it?

Come on Coventry City, you have unbelievably loyal fans who have supported you year on year even when they know it’s most likely going to be another season of absolute rubbish and survival on the final day. No other club deserves some success more than them and if there is a club, I must not be aware of their existence. I will definitely be following the Sky Blues this season and hope it’s a successful season for them.
 

Covstu

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Bit random but sums it up perfectly, just illistrated a similar point on the 'John Stones' thread about how much more it means to us winning a game compared to the big boys where it is expected.
 

Grendel

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30 years in the top flight but that's not the point - well it actually is the point.
 

letsallsingtogether

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Rubbish I thought all our fans were band waggoners who only venture out once a season ;)

Well actually I do believe we have the best fans in the country for the very reasons he has mentioned.
PUSB
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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30 years in the top flight but that's not the point - well it actually is the point.

It doesn't matter what league you are in Grendel, it's pretty simple.

Win games = more fans.
Lose games = less fans.
Good football = more fans.
Bad football = less fans.

How many years in the last 45 have we won more games than we've lost? I'd guess at 5, maybe 6.
 

letsallsingtogether

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It doesn't matter what league you are in Grendel, it's pretty simple.

Win games = more fans.
Lose games = less fans.
Good football = more fans.
Bad football = less fans.

How many years in the last 45 have we won more games than we've lost? I'd guess at 5, maybe 6.
But we are still shit according to some on here.
 

Grendel

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I'd take staying up by goal diff inthe prem lge to winning the championship all day

Precisely. The top 6 argument is a joke. Teams like Stoke and West Brom will not care if they don't have a top 6 finish for the next 50 years providing they remain in the premiership. If we were still there it would never get mentioned.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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Even if you take out the Premier League we still haven't finished in the top 6 of any league for 15 years. I'm sure the second highest was Rochdale with 17 years last time this thread was around? They've been promoted from League 2 since then so we still win it even if you TAKE AWAY 30 years, unbelievable.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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Precisely. The top 6 argument is a joke. Teams like Stoke and West Brom will not care if they don't have a top 6 finish for the next 50 years providing they remain in the premiership. If we were still there it would never get mentioned.

I know they won't. However they've had to achieve a top 6 finish (many times in West Brom's case) to get back up to the Premier League.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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Even 8th in the Championship was a bit underwhelming. We finished closer to 20th than 6th because of the massive difference between mid table sides and play offs.
 

skybluetony176

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Precisely. The top 6 argument is a joke. Teams like Stoke and West Brom will not care if they don't have a top 6 finish for the next 50 years providing they remain in the premiership. If we were still there it would never get mentioned.

It's not a joke though is it? In our current position we need at least 2 top 6 finishes to have a chance to be in the position of Stoke or West Brom. If we had no top 6 finishes for the next 45years I presume you are going to be happy because we're not in league 2?
 

torchomatic

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WTF? We finished EIGHTH, which is closer to 6th than 20th in my book, regardless of how you try and spin it. We moan about not having a top six finish then we make lame excuses for when we do get near.

Even 8th in the Championship was a bit underwhelming. We finished closer to 20th than 6th because of the massive difference between mid table sides and play offs.
 

skybluetony176

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WTF? We finished EIGHTH, which is closer to 6th than 20th in my book, regardless of how you try and spin it. We moan about not having a top six finish then we make lame excuses for when we do get near.

I think he meant in terms of points as apposed to league position.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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WTF? We finished EIGHTH, which is closer to 6th than 20th in my book, regardless of how you try and spin it. We moan about not having a top six finish then we make lame excuses for when we do get near.

I am talking about the point difference. 12 points from 6th is not near

In that case we finished 14 points from the play offs last season - did we nearly make the play offs then?
 

torchomatic

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Ah, so we're going to choose which stat we use as another stick to bash the club. Fair enough. We were more or less relegated then that season. Sheesh...

I think he meant in terms of points as apposed to league position.
 

Ashdown

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It reinforces my post a few days ago about selling your best players too early. We all know we have to sell to survive but if you capitulate too early and don't even get a full year out of them at their best then you never progress as a club and you won't get the best sale price for your star either.
 

skybluetony176

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Ah, so we're going to choose which stat we use as another stick to bash the club. Fair enough. We were more or less relegated then that season. Sheesh...

Don't think he was saying that either, just pointing out that the gap between 8th and 6th was bigger than the gap between 8th and 20th so when we finished 8th it's not like it happened on the last day of the season and we were in with a chance until the final whistle of the final game of making the play off's. Hence he was underwhelmed.
 

fernandopartridge

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This was a little realised fact until Coventry fans caught victim syndrome. Ignore that we were a top flight Cov and won a major trophy.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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It reinforces my post a few days ago about selling your best players too early. We all know we have to sell to survive but if you capitulate too early and don't even get a full year out of them at their best then you never progress as a club and you won't get the best sale price for your star either.

If we keep Armstrong for the season, don't sell Maddison, bring in 2 or 3 more, then we SHOULD be able to finish near the top. I am confident. I've seen 3 good displays so far, 1 poor one. Mowbray said it will show how good this team is and if we're up for the fight when we lose a game. A good team will now go and show it's a blip and win its next game. A poor team (CCFC in the past now hopefully) will now go on a 7 run winless streak. Monday's game will show what we're about.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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Three old mildly drunk Coventry fans - that's eliminated 5% of our supporters - the search is on. Name(s) and shame !;););)
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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This was a little realised fact until Coventry fans caught victim syndrome. Ignore that we were a top flight Cov and won a major trophy.

Not at all. Even if you take out the Premier League years - we still finish top of the 'years since top 6 finish' league with 15 years. Like I said I can take no top finish in the PL because of the budget differences between the top 6-8 teams. However in the Championship and L1? Not a chance for me.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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So Torch and co - you don't think there's anything wrong with no top 6 finish for 45 years? You can say 'oh we werein the Premier League for 30 years so stop moaning' however we've been out of it for 15 years and haven't come close to it once in lower leagues.

If you are happy with losing mentality at CCFC and teams coming here for an easy three points in League 1 (admittedly not this season yet) then what happened in the Championship will happen in L1. Gradually getting worse every season, hoping for 3 worse teams before getting relegated. You may be content with that but I'm not and a large majority aren't.
 

torchomatic

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Where did I say I was happy with it? Presumably you've come to that conclusion because I dare to disagree with what you and Tony said.

So Torch and co - you don't think there's anything wrong with no top 6 finish for 45 years? You can say 'oh we werein the Premier League for 30 years so stop moaning' however we've been out of it for 15 years and haven't come close to it once in lower leagues.

If you are happy with losing mentality at CCFC and teams coming here for an easy three points in League 1 (admittedly not this season yet) then what happened in the Championship will happen in L1. Gradually getting worse every season, hoping for 3 worse teams before getting relegated. You may be content with that but I'm not and a large majority aren't.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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So Torch and co - you don't think there's anything wrong with no top 6 finish for 45 years? You can say 'oh we werein the Premier League for 30 years so stop moaning' however we've been out of it for 15 years and haven't come close to it once in lower leagues.

If you are happy with losing mentality at CCFC and teams coming here for an easy three points in League 1 (admittedly not this season yet) then what happened in the Championship will happen in L1. Gradually getting worse every season, hoping for 3 worse teams before getting relegated. You may be content with that but I'm not and a large majority aren't.
I don't like people banging on about 45 years it as it makes them look like ungrateful shits moaning how about shit it was in the top flight for 30 or so years and an FA Cup win when a lot of our fans under the age of 25 haven't come close to that kind of success following city.

If people want to moan about how shit its been since the first relegation in 2001 then go ahead, I'd agree with you.
 
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covcity4life

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its spot on

yes in hindsight we all wish for prem days back and a relegation fight every year but back then i wanted more, the season with keane wa smy favourite as we seemed a good team for once.

so whilst i agree likes of sundersland and leicester have it great right now they ALSO have lower league victories and playoffs in their recent past. cov do not.

we have had it bad in terms of success, this is not playing the victim.

i was 5 when we won fa cup so dont even remember the joy of it all, its just something i am proud of,but its not my era.
 

ms639

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Precisely. The top 6 argument is a joke. Teams like Stoke and West Brom will not care if they don't have a top 6 finish for the next 50 years providing they remain in the premiership. If we were still there it would never get mentioned.

That's absolute rubbish I would prefer to see us yo yo in and out of the championship and premier league and have some excitement than a 12th place finish every year
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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All I know is when the big day comes along - the celebrations will be absolute immense even if it's 'only' League 1. After the 15/45 (however you look at it) years of unsuccessful seasons.
 

ms639

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Say that but imagine being a west brom fan and getting to the start of every season with zero anticipation you aren't going to sign anyone massively exciting, you aren't going to get anywhere near europe and you aren't going to be relegated. Football is an entertainment industry, you have no points in the season where you have any level of anticipation. I was born in 1991 so realistically i've had it pretty bad as a coventry fan, the stand out moment was being at white hart lane on the last day of the season when we stayed up. I can sit down and say to people i was at that game i witnessed it, what to west brom fans do? I was at stoke last week and watched us lose 3-0 and next week i watched us beat swansea 1-0, but nobody cares because their season is a foregone conclusion
 

covcity4life

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Precisely. The top 6 argument is a joke. Teams like Stoke and West Brom will not care if they don't have a top 6 finish for the next 50 years providing they remain in the premiership. If we were still there it would never get mentioned.

very true HOWEVER thats what their current fans would say, the fans that have experienced championship league winning seasons in the last 5-10 years

fast forward 45 years and if they have been relegated to league 1 and not had a top 6 finish you tell me how many fans will be like "fuck it,we finished 11th in prem 12 years ago"

i am in 100% agreement that 17th in prem > winning championship but it doesnt give you the same buzz as winning lots of matches, i mean you saw the buzz after cov won 3 in a row, it will be crazy scenes if we ever win league 1 or get promoted.

and we fucking deserve them.
 

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