Championship thread 25/26! (91 Viewers)

covcity4life

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Considering the outlay, the recruitment is very weird for a club of their size. Older players on large wages. £7.5m on Broadhead, £6.5m on Sheaf etc. with no real sell on value.

For a club whose ambition and budget is premier league, signing a large chunk of players who are known quantities and very unlikely to be able to make the step up is strange. But they also still have Parkinson as gaffer so I really don’t think the lads running the operation are the brightest football minds.
Ya they doing a terrible job so far..
 

Shannerz

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Considering the outlay, the recruitment is very weird for a club of their size. Older players on large wages. £7.5m on Broadhead, £6.5m on Sheaf etc. with no real sell on value.

For a club whose ambition and budget is premier league, signing a large chunk of players who are known quantities and very unlikely to be able to make the step up is strange. But they also still have Parkinson as gaffer so I really don’t think the lads running the operation are the brightest football minds.
Tbf, the squad they came up with was for the most part an above average League 1 squad, so they needed players they knew could perform at this level.

That's their modus operandi; spunk loads on a new squad whenever they need one, because they don't have to think about cash turnover. It's anti-competitive, in my opinion, and very bad for football generally when club(s) can have a budget that way outstrips that of rivals and isn't in any way tied to success on the pitch or a canny turnover of players.

As for how they're doing; all you can say is they seem to have a better clue than Birmingham. At least they try to sign the players that they actually need / suit how they play, even if at massively inflated prices.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Tbf, the squad they came up with was for the most part an above average League 1 squad, so they needed players they knew could perform at this level.

That's their modus operandi; spunk loads on a new squad whenever they need one, because they don't have to think about cash turnover. It's anti-competitive, in my opinion, and very bad for football generally when club(s) can have a budget that way outstrips that of rivals and isn't in any way tied to success on the pitch or a canny turnover of players.

As for how they're doing; all you can say is they seem to have a better clue than Birmingham. At least they try to sign the players that they actually need / suit how they play, even if at massively inflated prices.
I agree there. Birmingham just seem to be throwing eggs at the wall and hoping a few don't break, Wrexham clearly went after people who know the league and can be trusted for consistency.

Now if every team in the league had £50 million to chuck at wages and transfer fees it's a different story, but outside of the parachute clubs nobody can spend that and Lesta were of course hamstrung financially anyway.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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If (spit) we end up in the play offs, I really don't want Southampton or Blues in the top 6. Come to think of it, I don't want Wrexham. Charlton, Sheff Wed and Oxford please!
 

Sick Boy

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Considering the outlay, the recruitment is very weird for a club of their size. Older players on large wages. £7.5m on Broadhead, £6.5m on Sheaf etc. with no real sell on value.

For a club whose ambition and budget is premier league, signing a large chunk of players who are known quantities and very unlikely to be able to make the step up is strange. But they also still have Parkinson as gaffer so I really don’t think the lads running the operation are the brightest football minds.
They’d just buy a whole new team in the PL.
 

covcity4life

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Not sure why some think top 5 are cemented.

Would anyone truly be shocked if hull for example fell out of the playoff zone never mind the top 5?

One weekend where they or Millwall etc lose and chasing pack win and it's all very close again.
 

Otis

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Not sure why some think top 5 are cemented.

Would anyone truly be shocked if hull for example fell out of the playoff zone never mind the top 5?

One weekend where they or Millwall etc lose and chasing pack win and it's all very close again.
Yeah, it's anyone's game

Lots of twists and turns to come yet .
 

CCFC96

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They’d just buy a whole new team in the PL.
Don’t doubt that it’s just I’m not sure I’d trust Phil Parkinson to get them up. Similar to Birmingham, it’s great at this stage but if they don’t go up this year, next year will only be harder. How many years can they actually sustain spaffing money up the wall and hoping Phil Parkinson gets them up before things go tits up.

At the rate they’re both spending, I imagine they’ve got to be getting promoted in the next 3/4 years given they don’t really have many saleable assets that will make them major profits.
 

TomRad85

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New rules are designed to stop thinks like that so lets see what happens, they may have snook it in early enough.
Yeh rules were put in place after Chelsea did this right? Blues attempting to cheat shocker.
 

Sick Boy

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Don’t doubt that it’s just I’m not sure I’d trust Phil Parkinson to get them up. Similar to Birmingham, it’s great at this stage but if they don’t go up this year, next year will only be harder. How many years can they actually sustain spaffing money up the wall and hoping Phil Parkinson gets them up before things go tits up.

At the rate they’re both spending, I imagine they’ve got to be getting promoted in the next 3/4 years given they don’t really have many saleable assets that will make them major profits.
Wrexham will have no financial issues whatsoever. They'll be able to spend until they get promoted.
 

TomRad85

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Just like when they sponsored their own stadium and funnelled money in that way. That bulb-headed c**t just says the word revenue and all the dopey cunts that follow him like rats following the piper parrot it as if fucking Blues are a money making machine and its all above board. Never have I wanted a club to fall on its arse so much.
 

fernandopartridge

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Considering the outlay, the recruitment is very weird for a club of their size. Older players on large wages. £7.5m on Broadhead, £6.5m on Sheaf etc. with no real sell on value.

For a club whose ambition and budget is premier league, signing a large chunk of players who are known quantities and very unlikely to be able to make the step up is strange. But they also still have Parkinson as gaffer so I really don’t think the lads running the operation are the brightest football minds.
I don't think sell on fees are part of their objective really. If they think they can get promoted they presumably will be pulling in some extra recent from the USA which means that transfer sell ons are less important than they might be for us.
 

KNSB

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Be interested to know what value Birmingham's owners attributed to the women's team for the sale. By the looks of it, they're currently in the second division with average attendances hovering around the 1,000 mark, so no doubt they believe a fair market value would be in the tens of millions....
 

Lamps

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Not sure why some think top 5 are cemented.

Would anyone truly be shocked if hull for example fell out of the playoff zone never mind the top 5?

One weekend where they or Millwall etc lose and chasing pack win and it's all very close again.
I'm only looking at the top 5 because Derby, Wrexham and Preston are 14 points behind us with 14 games to go. We won't be in the top two if any of them catch us up.

I'm not bothered who finishes where as long as we finish in the top two.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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Best chance would be Hull staying in there till the end I think.
Yeah - think you'd want Hull, Millwall and either Derby/PNE (don't laugh) or Bristol City.

I do think one of Southampton, Blues or Wrexham may take the other spot (Sheff Utd as the wild card)

Regardless, at least you know all of those teams will be scrapping in each game, which makes games harder for the chasing pack (as well as ourselves) This is why the auto places total will be a lot lower than usual.
 

Liquid Gold

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Wrexham are well under at the moment but with PSR they could fall foul of the rules.

They have made a loss of £10.7m over the last 3 published accounting periods from 2021-2024. That is well below the £39m loss they're allowed to incur.

The 25/26 accounts will be the interesting ones though. I can't see how revenue will have increased that much for them and they are spending multi millions on single transfers now and making a lot of them.
 

thekidfromstrettoncamp

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After last night IMO gradually we are moving away from teams who could possibly go above us.There are only 4 now 5th dowmwards would need a point extra every game to top us.
Next target is Hull an away game in hand but 8 points behind us.Then Ipswich 2 away in hand 8 behind both inferior GD.Keep the faith.
Enjoy the ride.
 

shepardo01

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Not sure why some think top 5 are cemented.

Would anyone truly be shocked if hull for example fell out of the playoff zone never mind the top 5?

One weekend where they or Millwall etc lose and chasing pack win and it's all very close again.
Southampton are only three points off 6th and have really picked up!
 

Lamps

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Wrexham are well under at the moment but with PSR they could fall foul of the rules.

They have made a loss of £10.7m over the last 3 published accounting periods from 2021-2024. That is well below the £39m loss they're allowed to incur.

The 25/26 accounts will be the interesting ones though. I can't see how revenue will have increased that much for them and they are spending multi millions on single transfers now and making a lot of them.
They were under different rules then. The £39m loss over 3 years is for FFP in the Championship which is known as profit and sustainability (P&S)

League One and League Two Clubs follow the Salary Cost Management Protocol (“SCMP”) These state that Clubs can only spend a fixed percentage of its revenue on player wages etc. This limit can also be added to or impacted by equity injections or net transfer spend. This is now lower than it was before the start of this season because of what Wrexham and Birmingham did. It is now 60% of income for players expenditure in League One and 50% for League Two. But owners can donate as much as they like and the % of this can go on players expenditure. That's how they got to spend so much. They have a clean slate on entry to the Championship.

That's how Birmingham got to spend lots like £15m on Stansfield.
 

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