No, it was a vile terrorist attack.
It is possible to think what is happening in Gaza is Genocide and not support Hamas you know.
It is possible to think what is happening in Gaza is Genocide and not support Hamas you know.
They are not "neighbours" they are occupied people you idiot
This includes the West Bank who were more supportive of Hamas’ incursion than in Gaza…
The polling was published in Dec 2023 so was conducted shortly after the events.
Why would he be targeted? Jewish people go to Villa games all the time, Sick Boy has a Jewish friend who has an Villa ST.
What evidence is there that Jewish people will be targeted at the game?
Lots of teams have a history of violence, Birmingham fans aren't banned when they play there. Always violence before and after
I think you two are looking for a somewhat more extreme message board. At least, I hope you are.
Hang on, Hamas is the elected government of Gaza. It’s not a terrorist attack at all.
It was actual genocide. They deliberately targeted non-combatants and civilian areas away from military targets. The IDF weren’t embedded in the Kibbutz or supernova festival.
The UN disagrees with you.
Israeli ministers have called for mass relocations of the Gazan population and the concentration of the whole population in a big open air camp in the south of the strip. The IDF far from accidentally killing civilians in military operations has killed people queuing for aid, attacked aid convoys and withheld food and medical supplies from reaching civilians. Those are, at a bare minimum, war crimes and are why there are warrants out for the arrest of Netanyahu and some of his ministers.
I thank you for being honest though, you just don't want to call it what it is.
No they aren't. Maccabi Tel Aviv fans are banned from attending.
I am merely relaying what the guy said on a phone in programme. Its his thoughts and feelings.
I must have missed you posting at a similar rate when this has occurred previously
I explained why. Because people, including our prime minister, are declaring it is anti-semetic to ban football supporters of a specific club. There's also being claims thrown around that Jewish people are banned from Villa Park which is just not true.
I made no mention of Amsterdam. A quick read of the history of this club would suggest that just focusing on Amsterdam is missing the bigger picture.
There's a history of their supporters abusing even their own players, even down to players at youth level being forced out of the club, they have a Zionist owner who allows his beliefs to influence their signings, their supports have a long standing reputation for violence & racism, and not only at games, there are reports of them turning up to anti-Netanyahu protests and attacking protesters.
Its one thing to say that the ban is wrong but lets not pretend they are just a nice group of lads who want a couple of days in Brum watching a game. I'm sure there's some supporters who are perfectly capable of behaving themselves but they do appear to have a disproportionate number intent on trouble.
They aren't banned, see Sick Boys post about his friend who is a Villa ST holder and Jewish. I also know Dan who is the Villa ticketing manager and their is no ban on Jewish Villa Fans. You probably need to stop believing everything you read online.
But it is what it is. The world isn't fair. A combination of (elements of) extreme Islamists, Far right Israeli fans, far left Antifa members and the usual idiots that attend matches and you have carnage. Why should the people of Birmingham have to put up with that for a poxy football match
The local Muslim MP wants the Jewish fans of the away team banned. You should watch the news more. Even the prime minister wants it reversed
Not all Israelis are Jews, sounds very anti-Semitic of you to make the assumption.
Genocide is the intent to destroy the whole or 'substantial' part of a group.
What they did on that day was clearly horrific beyond words, but I don't think they intended or expected to wipe out a substantial part of Israel on that day.
Whereas Israel have quite clearly intended to wipe out probably all, but at the very least a substantial part of, Palestinians.
So they have not been banned then, just that someone has said they think they should be?
The PM wants the banning of the supporters of a particular club reversed, he hasn't mentioned the banning of "jewish fans" at all.
How many Muslims follow Jewish football teams then, got your blinkers on as normal. Now go and tell everybody ' I was a teacher you know '
This is not true is it, there's been examples in this thread of other games in this competition where fans have been banned.
Tel Aviv is a city whose population is 90% Jewish. That accusation of anti-semitism is childish.
They can have fans from other parts of Israel who want to go to the match. Jewish Aston Villa fans haven't been banned have they?
Jews haven't been banned from attending. Conflating Israeli nationality with being Jewish is an anti-Semitic act.
I didn't 'tell everybody', I was asked repeatedly by a poster who kept bringing it up on his own.
What separates a Jewish football team from an Israeli one? How do you tell the difference?
Keep digging this anti-Semitic hole btw.
Meet the non-Jewish players on Israel's national football team - The Jewish Chronicle
The inclusion of Muslim, Druze, and Arab players challenges the oversimplified narrative that all Israelis are Jewish
www.thejc.com
It's not like Muslims also play for the Israeli national team wait what
Meet the non-Jewish players on Israel's national football team - The Jewish Chronicle
The inclusion of Muslim, Druze, and Arab players challenges the oversimplified narrative that all Israelis are Jewish
www.thejc.com
So has Ed Davey, it seems to be deeply unpopular across most the political divide other than Islamists and fringe left wingers.