SkyBlueDom26
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Constant deflection and excuses, showed yourself to be a right idiot tonight!! Surprised you haven’t resorted to the childish gifs
Israel - Palestinian Conflict (3 Viewers)
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pusbccfc
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Not surprised.
Forget what people are saying about Maccabi Tel Aviv fans causing problems, it would be a security nightmare trying to police the protests.
There's aggressive protests up and down the country every week. Imagine dropping Israelis into the mix.
Genuine risk of terrorism.
Forget what people are saying about Maccabi Tel Aviv fans causing problems, it would be a security nightmare trying to police the protests.
There's aggressive protests up and down the country every week. Imagine dropping Israelis into the mix.
Genuine risk of terrorism.
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pusbccfc
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We host racist hooligan/ultra groups every European game week and don't ban them.
nicksar
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Horrible things being carried out in Gaza by Hamas currently.... loads of fellow Palestinians being slaughtered.
This.
There's a genuine risk of huge public disorder and violence (from both sides), which really doesn't seem worth it for a football match.
mmttww
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Not really. I've replied respectfully to posts accusing me of some sh*tty stuff. I'm comfortable with what I've said.
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Oh so Israel is suddenly concerned about the welfare of Palestinians and the murder of Palestinians?
This 'article' is absolutely pathetic.
mmttww
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and if there was a decision to ban fans of a club that had a similar track record to Maccabi Tel Aviv on safety grounds, I'd get it. Not saying one or both would be the right decision, but I'd get it.
pusbccfc
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There are clubs that visit English football teams with far worse history of hooliganism.
We allowed a limited allocation of 800 Legia Warsaw fans visit Chelsea this year despite causing major disorder at Villa and Leicester in the past 5 years.
Frankfurt fans have been banned from travelling to Napoli for the same round of fixtures as this Villa game
Ajax fans were banned from Marseille earlier this season.
So clearly this is not some unprecedented decision - it's already happened twice this season.
It's obviously done on safety grounds and the notion it's some anti-semitic statement is silly.
Ajax fans were banned from Marseille earlier this season.
So clearly this is not some unprecedented decision - it's already happened twice this season.
It's obviously done on safety grounds and the notion it's some anti-semitic statement is silly.
I don't know if it's true or not, that's not the point.
The point is it's pretty horrific to see Israel now pretending to care about the fate of Palestinians after they've just murdered 70,000 of them.
mmttww
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Not arguing with you. Easy for us to argue points of principle on here, though. Another thing to be the poor f*cks on Villa's SAG who instead of planning for a football match have to figure out how to deal with and police a political, racial and religious powder keg.
I highly doubt it, as you said earlier there will be mass protests which are liable to kick off big time. It's a pretty specific set of circumstances.
pusbccfc
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I fully agree. It's a security nightmare.
Sky Blue Pete
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Dick
Who sits on the SAG that made the decision?
Clearly if they didn’t have a reputation for violence then they wouldn’t have been banned, but I think it’s bullshit to just straight up ban any team’s fans from a game, and if you haven’t exhausted all options in terms of policing then you’ll inevitably open yourself up to accusations that something more sinister is behind it.
Football fans shouldn’t be treated as criminals by default, surely people on this forum have experienced enough bullshit during their own travels to know this.
Clearly if they didn’t have a reputation for violence then they wouldn’t have been banned, but I think it’s bullshit to just straight up ban any team’s fans from a game, and if you haven’t exhausted all options in terms of policing then you’ll inevitably open yourself up to accusations that something more sinister is behind it.
Football fans shouldn’t be treated as criminals by default, surely people on this forum have experienced enough bullshit during their own travels to know this.
mmttww
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If you're the leader of the country it isn't a great look to throw people under the bus on X. If he's talked to them, offered to support policing of the game and to stand with them to do all that can be done to have it pass as peacefully as possible, and to take some accountability if it doesn't, I'd get it. Haven't seen anything to suggest that's what he's done. Not great.
Mucca Mad Boys
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Has anything else happened in the Netherlands? I’m only aware of the one incident.
One thing I’ve observed on social media is that many of the Pro-Pal people have v little to say about Hamas executing political enemies in the streets this week*.
*Or ethnic of the Uighurs in China… or massacres of Christians in the Middle East and Nigeria.
Captain Dart
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Israel should be banned from all international sporting and media events.
Mucca Mad Boys
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Should Palestine be banned too?
Mucca Mad Boys
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The pertinent question is why is it a tinder box ready to ignite? They’re football fans going to a game, not the actual IDF.
Why this episode is so shameful is because it’s yet another example of sectarianism creeping into our society. We’ve brought this upon ourselves with mass migration. This wouldn’t have happened 10-20 years ago.
If a Ukrainian football team (or Russian) were travelling to the UK, we wouldn’t be banning their fans over ‘safety concerns’.
SkyBlueDom26
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Fuck off you clown, he’s right. Or do you not agree with the fact he has said anti semetism shouldn’t be on our streets? Only dick is yourself
SkyBlueDom26
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Captain Fart has spoken everyone
SkyBlueDom26
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First supporting Palestine action and now admitting to being anti semitic, embarrassment
I know you like to blame everything on immigration, but football fans from different countries have been kicking the shit out of each other for decades.
I also have no doubt that a Russian team playing a competitive game in the UK in this environment would probably require a pretty serious security operation, and I’m not sure why you’d claim it wouldn’t?
You think a load of Muslims and a load of Israelis would get on fine and it would pass without incident?
