Transfer Rumour 25/26 Summer Transfer Window (19 Viewers)

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Warwickhunt

Warwickhunt

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At least MVE can now get his head back into doing his job rather than it being messed about with what could have been. Show everyone the best MVE for at least the next 12 weeks👍👍
 
pusbccfc

pusbccfc

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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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Kingokings204 said:
on what basis?
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I've been discussing above But:
1) when he came in everything was based on 5 years. Players contracts were 4 years, rental agreement was 5 years.
2) he's built up the commercial side of the club massively and quickly.
3) Pruned the squad to a streamlined mode with value and strength. we're now a side that can regularly compete for to the top 6, with a decent and big name manager.
4) bought the Stadium - the key one. It requires a bit of maintenance, bit of investment - but crucially its within the club structure. To me, in its current state, it only makes sense when you're looking to sell the total package.
5) The current squad appears to be reaching the first part of their contracts. first batch of post Vik and Hamer contracts up for renewal next season. Can we afford this? crucially - Can Doug?
6) Hes not in it for the love of the club or game - hes here to make money, Hes also a hedgefund manager

ultimately Doug is risk averse. Does he want to stay and gamble on getting us to the premier league? Thats gonna take further investment. Or Does he take what is likely to be around £30m profit whilst we are where we are.

I'm probably wrong, But i get the feeling - as Tim Fisher once aluded to, we're at the top of the cycle.
 
JSL

JSL

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Manchester_sky_blue said:
It's easy to dismiss free agents as cast offs but at the moment there are some really good free agents available. It's definitely a market we should look at.
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It could be possible that letting Sheaf go so late had a plan like this and we will all be wowed with cake icing in the near future
 
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Ccfcisparks

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Manchester_sky_blue said:
It's easy to dismiss free agents as cast offs but at the moment there are some really good free agents available. It's definitely a market we should look at.
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The match fitness is a big thing though to be honest.

Of the free agents who could add something to us, I think they are out of our wage bracket.
 
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CCFCSteve

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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Burnley went for what 80m? We’re not worth anything near 250m.

isn’t Doug also a hedge fund manager? They’re not known for long term are they
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Think he’s in commodities/rapeseed oil. SISU were a hedge fund and we were stuck with them for 15 years. I agree kings unlikely to be here long term but in the meantime he’s trying to run the club as sustainably as possible and the only way to do this is player trading
 
Manchester_sky_blue

Manchester_sky_blue

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Ccfcisparks said:
The match fitness is a big thing though to be honest.

Of the free agents who could add something to us, I think they are out of our wage bracket.
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The match fitness is a concern you're right and we shouldn't just add bodies for the sake of it.

Josh Da Silva is the obvious candidate for me but I'm sure he will have offers.
 
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Speedie's Head

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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
3) Pruned the squad to a streamlined mode with value and strength. we're now a side that can regularly compete for to the top 6, with a decent and big name manager.
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I don't see the figures behind your pruning the squad train of thought. We've registered around 23, or 24 senior players with the EFL pretty consistently. We've actually added U-21s and the GKs to kid the other sides that the squad is bigger than it really has been.
 
Captain Dart

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blunted said:
Think Sheaf came out of the blue as a last minute thing that probably left us no time for a replacement. Offer was too good to miss.
Brum and Wrexham have moved the goalposts upping the ante on transfer fees that has made it difficult if you want to buy real quality.
Think where we were under SISU and where we are now.
If we get major injuries, we could be screwed, but that has always been the case in previous seasons.
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Maybe the plan was for Andrews to go out on loan but because Sheaf went he has been held over.
 
Ccfcisparks

Ccfcisparks

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Manchester_sky_blue said:
The match fitness is a concern you're right and we shouldn't just add bodies for the sake of it.

Josh Da Silva is the obvious candidate for me but I'm sure he will have offers.
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When you look at free agents they are split into 3 categories mainly:

Could offer something but too expensive
Ziyech
Brownhill
eriksen

Not good enough
Tom Lawrence
Dele Alli and the like

Could offer something
Reidewald
Da Silva
Dennis
Hagi

For what its worth I dont think we will get any free agents in.
 
Captain Dart

Captain Dart

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shmmeee said:
All so last minute. Got to ask what Austin was doing all summer really.
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KKH, Rushworth and Brau were not last minute.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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Speedie's Head said:
I don't see the figures behind your pruning the squad train of thought. We've registered around 23, or 24 senior players with the EFL pretty consistently. We've actually added U-21s and the GKs to kid the other sides that the squad is bigger than it really has been.
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We've got a small senior squad. But thats in terms of squad size. That being said, I'm not saying pruning is a bad thing, there isn't really any deadwood. Its a well oiled squad, which i'm sure we'd all admit - if it stays fit we'll be right up there.
Deity said:
The time to exit is when you are in the premier league not when you are close to it. Premier league teams command a much higher premium.
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But again depends on how much of a gambler you are. like i said if we don't go up this year, all of a sudden, half the squad is in its last year, and needs renewals. the value of those contracts will inevitably go up.

You could stick around, but at some point if you want to get promoted, you're gonna have to start throwing more money at it. I don't think Doug has the capital, nor do I think he intends to if he did. He's a smart man, been a great owner for us - he's prepared us for much bigger.
 
Manchester_sky_blue

Manchester_sky_blue

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Ccfcisparks said:
When you look at free agents they are split into 3 categories mainly:

Could offer something but too expensive
Ziyech
Brownhill
eriksen

Not good enough
Tom Lawrence
Dele Alli and the like

Could offer something
Reidewald
Da Silva
Dennis
Hagi

For what its worth I dont think we will get any free agents in.
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I'm inclined to agree with you
 
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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Nick said:
I don't get why they didn't just say business concluded.

I don't think the communication has helped at all
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Yes all gone down hill recently, we don't even get under 18s or under 21s team news anymore. 😕
 
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Deity

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Speedie's Head said:
Fancy being the new First Team Kit and Laundry Assistant?

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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I've been discussing above But:
1) when he came in everything was based on 5 years. Players contracts were 4 years, rental agreement was 5 years.
2) he's built up the commercial side of the club massively and quickly.
3) Pruned the squad to a streamlined mode with value and strength. we're now a side that can regularly compete for to the top 6, with a decent and big name manager.
4) bought the Stadium - the key one. It requires a bit of maintenance, bit of investment - but crucially its within the club structure. To me, in its current state, it only makes sense when you're looking to sell the total package.
5) The current squad appears to be reaching the first part of their contracts. first batch of post Vik and Hamer contracts up for renewal next season. Can we afford this? crucially - Can Doug?
6) Hes not in it for the love of the club or game - hes here to make money, Hes also a hedgefund manager

ultimately Doug is risk averse. Does he want to stay and gamble on getting us to the premier league? Thats gonna take further investment. Or Does he take what is likely to be around £30m profit whilst we are where we are.

I'm probably wrong, But i get the feeling - as Tim Fisher once aluded to, we're at the top of the cycle.
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There is zero evidence that Doug is risk adverse ….

He has spent all the transfer income and more on the squad and training facilities. He’s just bought the stadium that requires material investment …

A risk adverse guy doesn’t buy a football club, banks some of the transfer income, and doesn’t invest in the way he is ….
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