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Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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Grendel said:
Er no. But they are unprocessed. Anyone who in this country has been guilty in the past of child molestation would not be allowed to be in any community - do the same safeguard apply to asylum seekers?
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I don’t know but are you saying that you think convicted sex offenders are coming to the uk? And the evidence is sexual crime may have increased??

I’m just trying to understand

I’m sorry to have annoyed you
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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GIMOC said:
1000s of undocumented men are entering the country being housed or occupying hotels and raping girls

if that doesn’t anger you and instead trying to justify it then imo you are part of the problem

Here’s some stats. rapes in Uk rising year by year and Afghan have the highest rate

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So the highest rate is 59.3/10,000. Or 0.6%. And that's for sexual assault, not child rape.

While that's still utterly abhorrent and as I said something that for me would result in instant deportation, I wouldn't call 0.6% "many of these blokes have raped young girls".

That's just blatantly untrue, sensationalism and hate speech.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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GIMOC said:
you really that thick?

it’s illegal to enter a country without documents

the same analogy applies

you wouldn’t want someone you didn’t know enter your house would you? Especially if you have kids etc..

this is no different. we shouldn’t allow ANYONE in this country unless documented
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Entering a country without documents is an illegal ACT. It is not an illegal PERSON.
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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Grendel said:
I do also Pete find this a bit self righteous and patronising.

I’ve frequently said I’m not bothered by migration as it doesn’t bother me

Like everyone if you don’t have experience of issues why would it.

My youngest daughter now won’t walk past the hotel with the dog as people have jeered and made blatant sexual references to her from there.

I went with said dog and some drunken idiot said he would eat my dog

She actually isn’t overly intimidated but I think it’s probably best she takes a different route. A few weeks ago some guy was outside the shop asking for cash - then he became abusive as he wasn’t getting very much sympathy

Men are visiting the hotel for sex. It’s happening and no one cares.

I have lived here for the first 20 years of my life and the last 20 years

There has never been a single issue until migrants were accessing the hotels.

Why are you so self righteous- would you like your daughter to have someone ask to see her pussy when she’s walking the dog?
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Men are visiting the hotel to have sex with the male migrants?
Never a single issue? Who are all the people in the prisons guilty of child rape prior to 2016?

again I don’t think I’m self righteous and I’ve given evidence against an Iraqi man that sexually assaulted my daughter just before covid so don’t assume you know what my experiences are? Of course it wouldn’t be good to have someone ask to see her pussy but that’s no different if it’s an immigrant from her sixth form colleagues back in the day
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Sky Blue Pete said:
Men are visiting the hotel to have sex with the male migrants?
Never a single issue? Who are all the people in the prisons guilty of child rape prior to 2016?

again I don’t think I’m self righteous and I’ve given evidence against an Iraqi man that sexually assaulted my daughter just before covid so don’t assume you know what my experiences are? Of course it wouldn’t be good to have someone ask to see her pussy but that’s no different if it’s an immigrant from her sixth form colleagues back in the day
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Unbelievable - I give up
 
Sky Blue Pete

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Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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GIMOC said:
clearly you are because you think it’s ok having all these undocumented men coming in and committing crime to our kids

seriously when will enough be enough for you? genuine question
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When you and others who want to blame immigration for everything can come up with a solution that doesn’t label anyone who isn’t English as a potential sexual offender and that we just need to stop the boats and all our problems will go away
 
GIMOC

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Sky Blue Pete said:
When you and others who want to blame immigration for everything can come up with a solution that doesn’t label anyone who isn’t English as a potential sexual offender and that we just need to stop the boats and all our problems will go away
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what are you on about?

Every crime committed by an illegal immigrant could have been stopped if these scumbags were sent back as soon as they arrived

they have no documents so means no right to be here

Stats show how bad rape is now in the country compared to 20 years ago

same time as immigration in this country has shot up

simple solution. you come here illegally you get sent home. simple
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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GIMOC said:
what are you on about?

Every crime committed by an illegal immigrant could have been stopped if these scumbags were sent back as soon as they arrived

they have no documents so means no right to be here

Stats show how bad rape is now in the country compared to 20 years ago

same time as immigration in this country has shot up

simple solution. you come here illegally you get sent home. simple
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Where’s home gimoc? Hence the problem
I’m sure you have the stats to show that rape has gone up over 20 years and the perpetrators are illegal immigrants

There’s an issue here that needs resolving but it’s not easy
 
GIMOC

GIMOC

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Sky Blue Pete said:
Where’s home gimoc? Hence the problem
I’m sure you have the stats to show that rape has gone up over 20 years and the perpetrators are illegal immigrants

There’s an issue here that needs resolving but it’s not easy
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just in case you missed it
Do you want to discuss boring politics?

yes it is easy. You send them back to the last country they came from

If you come via illegal channels and have no documents then you get returned immediately
 
GIMOC

GIMOC

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Sky Blue Pete said:
You know requires agreement why don’t you understand that
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well scrap it all

We are an island it should be impossible to arrive here other than the correct ways

I can’t just go by car or plane to another country without a passport wouldn’t be allowed past Dover
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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GIMOC said:
well scrap it all

We are an island it should be impossible to arrive here other than the correct ways

I can’t just go by car or plane to another country without a passport wouldn’t be allowed past Dover
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You could go on a rubber dingy I’m sure
 
skybluetony176

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GIMOC said:
no they don’t lol

you can’t go to Oz for starters without having a sponsor
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You can go on a tourist visa though, overstay and then start working in the black jobs market. Which is still how the vast majority of illegals become illegals in literally every country in the world. Including ours.
 
GIMOC

GIMOC

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skybluetony176 said:
You can go on a tourist visa though, overstay and then start working in the black jobs market. Which is still how the vast majority of illegals become illegals in literally every country in the world. Including ours.
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so you’ve got one person saying you can just claim asylum anywhere which was lies

vast majority of illegal immigrants don’t come here via a visa because you don’t need one

they come by boats and then get houses in hotels

as for the black market. that’s why I don’t use any delivery company anymore
 
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wingy

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Sky Blue Pete said:
You could go on a rubber dingy I’m sure
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That would be novel,in fact I don't know why this has never occurred to me before, just do the opposite and get a load of British people going the other way.
All those people that think this is a no hope nation, which is probably many, invade France and live the life ol, drinking wine which used to be as cheap as water,no need for a parable there!
 
ccfc922

ccfc922

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Sky Blue Pete said:
Men are visiting the hotel to have sex with the male migrants?
Never a single issue? Who are all the people in the prisons guilty of child rape prior to 2016?

again I don’t think I’m self righteous and I’ve given evidence against an Iraqi man that sexually assaulted my daughter just before covid so don’t assume you know what my experiences are? Of course it wouldn’t be good to have someone ask to see her pussy but that’s no different if it’s an immigrant from her sixth form colleagues back in the day
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Fucking hell 🤣🤣 you genuinely dont hear yourself do you? 🤣🤣

Carry on living in your happy clappy land where the world is full of good people and there's just the odd wrong un 🤣🤡🤦‍♂️
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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GIMOC said:
so you’ve got one person saying you can just claim asylum anywhere which was lies

vast majority of illegal immigrants don’t come here via a visa because you don’t need one

they come by boats and then get houses in hotels

as for the black market. that’s why I don’t use any delivery company anymore
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30000 last year out of 1mn
 
GIMOC

GIMOC

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skybluetony176 said:
You do understand that it isn’t actually illegal to arrive in any country by boat. Including ours.
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hate to be the person who tells you this

you come here without any documents you should be allowed to step foot on our soil

So with your thinking does that mean I can go Spain without a passport?
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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ccfc922 said:
Fucking hell 🤣🤣 you genuinely dont hear yourself do you? 🤣🤣

Carry on living in your happy clappy land where the world is full of good people and there's just the odd wrong un 🤣🤡🤦‍♂️
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That’s the world we all live in otherwise there’d be more than 85000 locked up out of 60 million
 
ccfc922

ccfc922

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Grendel said:
Not in the one hotel it doesn’t - which PVA refuses to name

How interesting
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I think if we up the accomodation from hotels to luxury Spa, then that will help?

Maybe throw in a Gym membership too? You know, to keep them fit and healthy?
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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GIMOC said:
hate to be the person who tells you this

you come here without any documents you should be allowed to step foot on our soil

So with your thinking does that mean I can go Spain without a passport?
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Just acknowledge his point the 1951 act gives a person the right to claim asylum
You can say you don’t agree but you can’t say it doesn’t exist or he’s wrong
 
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