Whats the solution? (3 Viewers)

[Ccfcisparks]

Rudi over Simms or Tchaouna for me

hes looked like hes playing with cinder blocks in his feet.

Would be a total waste particularly on the wing

 

[Perennial Lurker]

hes looked like hes playing with cinder blocks in his feet.

Would be a total waste particularly on the wing

Agree he’s rusty but he’s still been in areas to score this season and another player who needs minutes

 

[quinn1971]

why are we counting this cup game but not the other? genuine question

Maybe because it was league one Plymouth ?

 

[Nick]

Maybe because it was league one Plymouth ?

Same cup as tonight.

May as well just do League Only then rather than just randomly exclude bits.

 

[quinn1971]

Same cup as tonight.

May as well just do League Only then rather than just randomly exclude bits.

I’d of thought it’s a given we’d of scored against Plymouth. I think he meant against teams the standard of we’re playing every week.wev’e managed one free kick

 

[Jarvo87]

Surprised to see people saying give Lampard till the end of the season - appreciate what he has achieved with us of course, but at this rate we won’t be beating Derby’s record.

absolutely, I said in another thread that unless there is an improvement in performance and results over the next 5 games he'll be gone by the end of October. Right now, if we see another performance like tonight/Sunday on Saturday, then the longer than normal international break might be really convenient.

Whatever happens, FL wont be here next season. All the talk about him being the right man to bring us straight back up is complete bo****s in my view, as is waiting till Christmas or February FFS, to see if things improve.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

absolutely, I said in another thread that unless there is an improvement in performance and results over the next 5 games he'll be gone by the end of October. Right now, if we see another performance like tonight/Sunday on Saturday, then the longer than normal international break might be really convenient.

Whatever happens, FL wont be here next season. All the talk about him being the right man to bring us straight back up is complete bo****s in my view, as is waiting till Christmas or February FFS, to see if things improve.

who would you replace him with

 

[rob9872]

absolutely, I said in another thread that unless there is an improvement in performance and results over the next 5 games he'll be gone by the end of October. Right now, if we see another performance like tonight/Sunday on Saturday, then the longer than normal international break might be really convenient.

Whatever happens, FL wont be here next season. All the talk about him being the right man to bring us straight back up is complete bo****s in my view, as is waiting till Christmas or February FFS, to see if things improve.

4 fucking games including the top 2 sides in the country. New players, new league, huge step up.

Ffs this place misses me off after a defeat. Forgot how bad it gets after a positive last season.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

4 fucking games including the top 2 sides in the country. New players, new league, huge step up.

Ffs this place misses me off after a defeat. Forgot how bad it gets after a positive last season.

5 games against prem opposition, 1 goal,0 from open play, conceded 13.

 

[rob9872]

5 games against prem opposition, 1 goal,0 from open play, conceded 13.

Tonight means fk all. Brighton we capitulated after the sending off, but they're a decent side. Arsenal and Man City are levels above. The outlier of course is Hull, they came for a point and left with all 3. That hurt, but we weren't outplayed and it can happen. I have no idea if we'll survive, but it'll 100% get better if everyone sticks with it.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Tonight means fk all. Brighton we capitulated after the sending off, but they're a decent side. Arsenal and Man City are levels above. The outlier of course is Hull, they came for a point and left with all 3. That hurt, but we weren't outplayed and it can happen. I have no idea if we'll survive, but it'll 100% get better if everyone sticks with it.

OK so which game is REALLY when the season starts then?

 

[quinn1971]

4 fucking games including the top 2 sides in the country. New players, new league, huge step up.

Ffs this place misses me off after a defeat. Forgot how bad it gets after a positive last season.

It’s not that…if you’d of said the start of the season we’d be on 0 points after 4 games it wouldn’t of been that surprising it’s the 0 goals and 10 against that’s the problem,… I’d rather us play like we did last season and I bet we’d be no worse off.. it’s like we’re scared to have a proper go…tonight’s games was nothing…Sunday was the wake up call and fans are rightly worried

 

[Liquid Gold]

Probably put all of our best players on the pitch at the same time and see what happens.

Will start Grimes and Rudoni this week again.

Gboho looked good and ran at them. Best drop him.

I don’t think playing Rudoni is a bad thing but he has to play him as a 10. The right wing experiment has to end.

We look better in a 4231 and he’s the only one in our squad capable of playing that role to a decent level.

 

[Jarvo87]

4 fucking games including the top 2 sides in the country. New players, new league, huge step up.

Ffs this place misses me off after a defeat. Forgot how bad it gets after a positive last season.

Yep, thats my view, and sorry it doesnt match yours. Last season was brilliant but its now history. Its about the here and now, and its not 1 defeat, its 5, and the last 2 have followed a very similar pattern. Nothing I've seen suggests we are going to drastically improve and the longer it goes, the worse it will get. Lampard doesnt look right in himself. I dont see a coach on the sidelines communicating with his players, tweaking things, demanding and pushing his players. Compare and contrast with his performance last season and Emery tonight or Hurzeler on Sunday. Chalk and cheese.

Not sure what your expectations are, but seemingly mine are different to yours. If you can see any grounds for optimism, fair enough, I'm struggling to see where points are coming from at the moment.

 

[claire69]

absolutely, I said in another thread that unless there is an improvement in performance and results over the next 5 games he'll be gone by the end of October. Right now, if we see another performance like tonight/Sunday on Saturday, then the longer than normal international break might be really convenient.

Whatever happens, FL wont be here next season. All the talk about him being the right man to bring us straight back up is complete bo****s in my view, as is waiting till Christmas or February FFS, to see if things improve.

Lampard will be gone by this time next week. Its so obvious. He has lost the dressing room or the players know he is going and have basically downed tools. Either way it is obvious the players are unhappy

 

[claire69]

Yep, thats my view, and sorry it doesnt match yours. Last season was brilliant but its now history. Its about the here and now, and its not 1 defeat, its 5, and the last 2 have followed a very similar pattern. Nothing I've seen suggests we are going to drastically improve and the longer it goes, the worse it will get. Lampard doesnt look right in himself. I dont see a coach on the sidelines communicating with his players, tweaking things, demanding and pushing his players. Compare and contrast with his performance last season and Emery tonight or Hurzeler on Sunday. Chalk and cheese.

Not sure what your expectations are, but seemingly mine are different to yours. If you can see any grounds for optimism, fair enough, I'm struggling to see where points are coming from at the moment.

You are spot on. Lampards body language and also that of the players is a dead give away. Something has happened behind the scenes between Monaco and start of the season. Looking back the players looked really odd body language wise when they arrived at the Emirates. That performance was so bad (not a tackle for 65 mins) we really should have realised there was a problem then. The fact it was agaimst the Champions i think masked the obvious red flags. There was no fight which for the past 8 years for a Coventry side has been unheard of.

I wonder if Lampard and King have had a falling out over recruitment. Lampard i think wanted Mudrk Loftus-Cheek and Tomori and Apenda and not getting close to any of them may have caused friction. Not sure Lampard wanted Tchoumna Ghobo Cherif Yirenki or Pinnock. Reason i say that is how quick he has been to bench tchoumna Pinnock and Yirenkyi and how slow we have been having Cherif and Ghobo getting involved.

This is all speculation but something is clearly totally wrong at the club.

 

[skyblue_55]

Our total lack of experience has shone through & some signings , especially the lad from Burnley , has me in bewilderment.
Walking away last night & I can’t see where our first point or goal from open play is coming from

 

[lowblocklounge]

If Frank does go if we have another heavy defeat v Forest, who we would bring in I have no idea. Doug said when sacked robins that he would never speak to another manager beforehand, so if Frank did go then it could take the whole break for a replacement to come in.

This would be a disaster as that 3 week period would at least allow a bit of bedding in.

 

[oscillatewildly]

Exactly, felt like they had given up. Undid all the good work. Not the best mentality. I saw a shot of Lampard, just sat there. Reminded me of the game Coleman got sacked after. I think we lost 4-0, and Coleman looked exactly the same.

He looked bereft.

 

[Saddlebrains]

Rushworth
MVE
Thomas
Pinnock
Mfuni
Dasilva
Tchouna
Yirenkyi
Torp
Gboho
Simms

5-4-1

Play it up to Simms, who has held the ball well previously, so he can lay it off to Torp to send in a 25 yard thunderbastard into the top corner. Failing that, Lay off to Torp who has the technical nouse to slip in one of the wingers (like Tchouna went through, against Monaco…I think it was)

Simms cannot hold the ball up. Hes fucking shit at it, too weak, and his first touch is if a trampoline. How have people still not realised this after 3 fucking years??

 

[Matt smith]

Simms cannot hold the ball up. Hes fucking shit at it, too weak, and his first touch is if a trampoline. How have people still not realised this after 3 fucking years??

Any update on haji fella?

 

[Saddlebrains]

Any update on haji fella?

Was meant to be back training towards the tail end of the international break last I heard a few weeks back

 

[bigfatronssba]

Doug isnt clever enough to appoint a non english manager.

It will be Dyche or Edwards

Yes. A self made millionaire who got us our own stadium and Premier League football for the first time in decades is obviously lacking in intelligence

 

[bigfatronssba]

4 fucking games including the top 2 sides in the country. New players, new league, huge step up.

Ffs this place misses me off after a defeat. Forgot how bad it gets after a positive last season.

It’s not A defeat though.

We’ve made one of the worst starts to a premier league season of any team in its history.

We’re playing considerably worse than last season. Current performances would get us nowhere near the top of the championship

 

[Winny the Bish]

It's time for Lampard to stick to a formation and XI for a run of games.

Rushworth
Thomas - Pinnock - Mfuni
MVE - Yirenkyi - Torp - Dasilva
Tchaouna - Gboho
Cherif

 

[lowblocklounge]

It's time for Lampard to stick to a formation and XI for a run of games.

Rushworth
Thomas - Pinnock - Mfuni
MVE - Yirenkyi - Torp - Dasilva
Tchaouna - Gboho
Cherif

Agree with this! But we all know it will be Grimes and Onyeka Saturday

 

[Legionairre]

Poor Villa team ?.They started off slowly last season and got better same will happen this season. They've also lost two of their best players and are rebuilding.They were miles better than us in speed ,,and strength, guille and flair.

Yes a poor Villa team who we’ve made look good

Most of us before the game saying how it’s winnable, great tie at home etc..

Can’t say after the event well Villa are a great team because they’re not

 

[Cally Fedora]

Rushworth
MVE
Thomas
Mfuni
JDS
Torp
Yerinkyi
Tchaouna
Gboho
Cherif
Simms

It’s Yirenkyi

 

[Tommo1993]

Get to L2 for a club reset.

 

[Cally Fedora]

Simms cannot hold the ball up. Hes fucking shit at it, too weak, and his first touch is if a trampoline. How have people still not realised this after 3 fucking years??

Most have, including Lampard who clearly only plays him as a last resort. But hey, he shoulder barged Gabriel at Arsenal.

 

[procdoc]

Lampard looks lost at the moment. It appears he’s throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks. The teams organisation is appalling particularly from set pieces. Villa’s goals were all far too easy, as were Brighton’s.

 

[Saddlebrains]

Lampard looks lost at the moment. It appears he’s throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks. The teams organisation is appalling particularly from set pieces. Villa’s goals were all far too easy, as were Brighton’s.

Thats what Robins ended up doing in the last knockings....

 

[skybluelee]

5 games against prem opposition, 1 goal,0 from open play, conceded 13.

15 isn't it?

 

[Cally Fedora]

I think the Man City game has thrown him. We were never in the game but the score line suggested we weren’t too bad. He’s clearly signed players to play in systems built on back 4’s and just needs to stick to that

 

[petch86]

It's time for Lampard to stick to a formation and XI for a run of games.

Rushworth
Thomas - Pinnock - Mfuni
MVE - Yirenkyi - Torp - Dasilva
Tchaouna - Gboho
Cherif

When we play that formation we offer nothing going forward down our left side. JSA is not a wing back. He doesn't have the pace or power to keep going and milans confidence is shot on the otherside so doesn't want to adventure forward either so it becomes a flat back 5 and the midfield gets over ran