10 more wins does it (35 Viewers)

[Sky Blue Harry H]

My birthday

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[Sky Blue Pete]

8

Oops 9

 

[Ccfcsj]

Mallorca away please.

Some time between 23rd and 28th July would be perfect as I'm on holiday there at that time

 

[JSL]

Those odds for Southampton are ridiculous.

Just been re-reading this. Its not so ridiculous now

 

[coop]

If we manage to get 6 points from the next 2 games then home win against Sheffield Wednesday clinches promotion and probably the title.

 

[JSL]

If we manage to get 6 points from the next 2 games then home win against Sheffield Wednesday clinches promotion and probably the title.

'Probably' is the word that we are trying to avoid. 'Certain' is better and more reassuring

 

[coop]

'Probably' is the word that we are trying to avoid. 'Certain' is better and more reassuring

Yes been a city fan far too long.

 

[quinn1971]

You won’t get two out of Ipswich Boro and Millwall to reach 86 definitely.

2 wins and we are promoted

hopefully, but 4 would guarantee it,

 

[skybluelee]

hopefully, but 4 would guarantee it,

3 wins and 2 draws mathematically seals it. But the chasing pack will drop points between now and then so it will be less.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Hopefully a draw in the early Millwill Boro game and that points total is coming down already

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

We've had 9. My initial calculation was 83 would be enough for promotion but the chasing pack increased their PPG slightly

We’ve got a free voucher to cash in v Sheff Wednesday after Easter.

We’ll probably get another 3 wins comfortably from here on out. It’s going to be a comfortable coronation.

 

[Robinshio]

1st full season after I was born we got promoted. 1st World Cup England won. Would be a great summer if both happened again. Just hope I then get to watch us for 34 more top flight seasons

 

[Pezza]

We just need to keep doing what we have been doing. Southampton game aside, we have not been losing matches and that is going to be the key, because even drawing Derby/Hull, we still go into the Sheff Wed game in ok position, we just need to keep chipping away.

I actually don't think we win at Hull, not sure why but I can see us beating Derby.

This international break was nice 10 minutes after that Swansea win but I'm over it now!

 

[Kneeza]

There’s a nice symmetry for us that turn 50 this year. First 25 years of life in the top tier, then 25 years out of it before (hopefully) returning

And when I turned 50, we had been in the top division for 25 years!
(And I'm not expecting to see us there for the next 25 ).

 

[Lamps]

Still find it nuts that people still think we need 3 or 4 wins

If we apply 2PPG To the chasing pack, which won't happen for the fact they play each other and law of averages aswell etc, then....

Boro - 85
Ipswich - 85
Millwall - 83

2 more wins and we are up, 86. It may even be the title, but let's say 3 more wins gets the title, 89.

Weve lost 7 in 39, We aren't just suddenly going to lose 6 of the last 7.

Its happening, its a case of when not if now

Of course we shouldn't need 3 wins for promotion. But as you then said we most probably need 3 wins plus for the title

The problem with saying we just need 2 wins for promotion is 2 sides also have to drop points, so winning the next 2 games most probably won't be enough for our promotion to be mathematically confirmed. Millwall have to keep winning to stay in the race, but we need them to lose 2 games and us win 2 games. Middlesbrough need to drop 7 points to make it mathematically safe with 2 wins for us. The 3rd win for us would speed along the inevitable. Ipswich could get 1 more points than Middlesbrough but have to win an extra game.

Looking at the games coming up if we win our next 2 games we could well be going for both promotion and Champions in the same game at home to Sheffield Wednesday. If the results haven't gone our way by now we're then at home to Blackburn and it's Ipswich v Middlesbrough. 2 big chances to do it at home.

 

[jto123]

Of course we shouldn't need 3 wins for promotion. But as you then said we most probably need 3 wins plus for the title

The problem with saying we just need 2 wins for promotion is 2 sides also have to drop points, so winning the next 2 games most probably won't be enough for our promotion to be mathematically confirmed. Millwall have to keep winning to stay in the race, but we need them to lose 2 games and us win 2 games. Middlesbrough need to drop 7 points to make it mathematically safe with 2 wins for us. The 3rd win for us would speed along the inevitable. Ipswich could get 1 more points than Middlesbrough but have to win an extra game.

Looking at the games coming up if we win our next 2 games we could well be going for both promotion and Champions in the same game at home to Sheffield Wednesday. If the results haven't gone our way by now we're then at home to Blackburn and it's Ipswich v Middlesbrough. 2 big chances to do it at home.

Blackburn is away

 

[skybluelee]

Of course we shouldn't need 3 wins for promotion. But as you then said we most probably need 3 wins plus for the title

The problem with saying we just need 2 wins for promotion is 2 sides also have to drop points, so winning the next 2 games most probably won't be enough for our promotion to be mathematically confirmed. Millwall have to keep winning to stay in the race, but we need them to lose 2 games and us win 2 games. Middlesbrough need to drop 7 points to make it mathematically safe with 2 wins for us. The 3rd win for us would speed along the inevitable. Ipswich could get 1 more points than Middlesbrough but have to win an extra game.

Looking at the games coming up if we win our next 2 games we could well be going for both promotion and Champions in the same game at home to Sheffield Wednesday. If the results haven't gone our way by now we're then at home to Blackburn and it's Ipswich v Middlesbrough. 2 big chances to do it at home.

Highly unlikely we get promoted v Sheff W and almost no chance of securing the title on that day.

Ipswich will have 6 games left so we'd need to be 19 points clear of them plus either 16 points clear of Mboro (who'd have 5 left as playing at 3pm) or 13 points clear of Millwall (4 left).

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Blackburn is away

Sort of as we’llhave more supporters than them

 

[clint van damme]

Highly unlikely we get promoted v Portsmouth and almost no chance of securing the title on that day.

Ipswich will have 6 games left so we'd need to be 19 points clear of them plus either 16 points clear of Mboro (who'd have 5 left as playing at 3pm) or 13 points clear of Millwall (4 left).

Ipswich will have 5 left and boro 3 won't they?

 

[skybluelee]

Ipswich will have 5 left and boro 3 won't they?

I meant Sheff W in response the Lamps post doh, have updated

 

[Ccfcsj]

Highly unlikely we get promoted v Portsmouth and almost no chance of securing the title on that day.

Ipswich will have 6 games left so we'd need to be 19 points clear of them plus either 16 points clear of Mboro (who'd have 5 left as playing at 3pm) or 13 points clear of Millwall (4 left).

We need 11 points maximum to be promoted - A lot to ask but if we win both games over Easter and beat Sheffield Wednesday we would be guaranteed promotion away at Blackburn with a win. Lose 1 of these and win 3 we would be promoted at home to Portsmouth with a win.

It could even be at home to Sheffield Wednesday if the 3 below us drop points (remember Middlesbrough are playing Millwall on Good Friday)

 

[skybluelee]

We need 11 points maximum to be promoted - A lot to ask but if we win both games over Easter and beat Sheffield Wednesday we would be guaranteed promotion away at Blackburn with a win. Lose 1 of these and win 3 we would be promoted at home to Portsmouth with a win.

It could even be at home to Sheffield Wednesday if the 3 below us drop points (remember Middlesbrough are playing Millwall on Good Friday)

Yep, agreed about Blackburn. It'd be nice to secure it with our 10th win in 11 games for sure.

The games in hand are more likely than not going to thwart it happening v Sheff W IMO though.

 

[SonofErnie]

Yep, agreed about Blackburn. It'd be nice to secure it with our 10th win in 11 games for sure.

The games in hand are more likely than not going to thwart it happening v Sheff W IMO though.

2 draws for Boro v Millwall and Swansea A, plus 2 wins for us, means that a win v Sheff Weds guarantees promotion.

 

[jordan210]

I just had a purchase order form a client and it started with EPL and the amount started with 88.

So looks like 88 points is what we need to get to the EPL

 

[Ccfcsj]

Yep, agreed about Blackburn. It'd be nice to secure it with our 10th win in 11 games for sure.

The games in hand are more likely than not going to thwart it happening v Sheff W IMO though.

It can be done - maybe not likely but is possible - Millwall to beat Middlesbrough and then lose to Norwich - Millwall could get a maximum of 87 points. Middlesbrough lose to Millwall and then Swansea away the most they can get would be 86 points. Two draws for Middlesbrough would be even better. A long shot I know - we can live in hope.

Win the next 4 and nothing else matters anyway

 

[Lamps]

Highly unlikely we get promoted v Sheff W and almost no chance of securing the title on that day.

Ipswich will have 6 games left so we'd need to be 19 points clear of them plus either 16 points clear of Mboro (who'd have 5 left as playing at 3pm) or 13 points clear of Millwall (4 left).

If Middlesbrough lose 2 more games the best they can do is 86 points. We would be on 86 points with 2 wins and a far superior GD. If Middlesbrough don't win any of the next 3 games we would be looking good to confirming finishing ahead of them at home to Sheffield Wednesday.

5 wins, a draw and a defeat would put Millwall's points on 85 points. 5W 2D is only 86 points. Millwall really need to win every game as we go along to keep in touch.

Next up Middlesbrough v Millwall Millwall win or draw for me. The confirmed promotion could come very quickly.

 

[Flying Fokker]

I’m now assuming we continue winning and all our rivals lose their remaining games. Cuts the hassle.

 

[skybluelee]

If Middlesbrough lose 2 more games the best they can do is 86 points. We would be on 86 points with 2 wins and a far superior GD. If Middlesbrough don't win any of the next 3 games we would be looking good to confirming finishing ahead of them at home to Sheffield Wednesday.

5 wins, a draw and a defeat would put Millwall's points on 85 points. 5W 2D is only 86 points. Millwall really need to win every game as we go along to keep in touch.

Next up Middlesbrough v Millwall Millwall win or draw for me. The confirmed promotion could come very quickly.

I know the scenario that would need to unfold. But those things happening as you describe is much less likely than them not happening.

 

[coop]

What if we lose the next 3 and two of the teams chasing win 3 games?

 

[AOM]

We're going to do it the Coventry way and the only game we'll lose now until the rest of the season is Sheffield Wednesday at home

 

[Frank Sidebottom]

What if we lose the next 3 and two of the teams chasing win 3 games?

Then we all shit our pants, Demand Lampard is sacked and then probably win our last 4 games 5-0.

 

[coop]

We're going to do it the Coventry way and the only game we'll lose now until the rest of the season is Sheffield Wednesday at home

Even I think we beat Wednesday at a canter.

 

[coop]

Then we all shit our pants, Demand Lampard is sacked and then probably win our last 4 games 5-0.

 

[Macca1987]

I know the scenario that would need to unfold. But those things happening as you describe is much less likely than them not happening.

I'm not sure that is true. If we take the 3 teams across their last 7 matches, 8 for Ipswich and were to say they got the same points again, then
Boro 2w, 4d, 1l = 10 points Total 81 points
Ipswich 4w, 3d, 1l = 15 points Total 84 points
Millwall 4w, 1d, 2l = 13 points Total 82 points

I know there is nothing scientific about that, but, they all have slipped up against so called lower teams lately, so who is to say it isnt going to happen again

 

[Sky_Blue_Daz]

Then we all shit our pants, Demand Lampard is sacked and then probably win our last 4 games 5-0.

Big Sam in to steady the ship