Transfer Rumour Frank Onyeka (42 Viewers)

[Otis]

I think it's fair to say that Lampard tweaked the tactical approach when Onyeka came in, so it wasn't just a personnel change. We were far too open and gung ho before, with the full backs going AWOL and Grimes having no help. Onyeka has played a big part in rectifying that, but it's not all down to him.

No, but having FTT enabled that tactical change. We had no-one else who could play the role Onyeka has been able to.

So, so much IS down to him, because we look a much stronger side because he is now included.

 

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[Calista]

No, but having FTT enabled that tactical change. We had no-one else who could play the role Onyeka has been able to.

So, so much IS down to him, because we look a much stronger side because he is now included.

Fair comment, but I remain puzzled by Lampard's insistence in playing Eccles so far forward. Having him alongside Grimes could have been an effective way of tightening us up when we went through that rocky period, especially away from home.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Fair comment, but I remain puzzled by Lampard's insistence in playing Eccles so far forward. Having him alongside Grimes could have been an effective way of tightening us up when we went through that rocky period, especially away from home.

You find a way

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Fair comment, but I remain puzzled by Lampard's insistence in playing Eccles so far forward. Having him alongside Grimes could have been an effective way of tightening us up when we went through that rocky period, especially away from home.

A key consideration is his aerial abilities because as a team, we like to put balls in the box and the AM is expected to be a credible threat.

 

[David O'Day]

still fucking brilliant

 

[jto123]

Can someone confirm that we do have him as an option to buy at the end of the season?

 

[Shannerz]

Can someone confirm that we do have him as an option to buy at the end of the season?

Think if we go up we have an obligation to sign him.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Watching Millwal and Cooper their CB is a beast and fuck all gets past him! Certainly worth looking at in my opinion.

We've put a lot past him over recent years

 

[Balli001]

Watching Millwal and Cooper their CB is a beast and fuck all gets past him! Certainly worth looking at in my opinion.

They have 2 better than him to start with

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Can someone confirm that we do have him as an option to buy at the end of the season?

 

[JSL]

Onyeka is not only one of those players who breaks up play at the expense of a niggly little foul at the occasional expense of a booking, but he seems also to be able to make up ground quickly and win the ball. Just recently he has also shown he has some skill in his tool chest and has also started shooting which is more than we bargained for. A great bit of business.

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Has been unreal, I can’t wait to see him fully fit and sharp on a Premier League pitch in Sky Blue

 

[wingy]

Sorry, I didn’t mean AM, I meant ‘an attacking midfielder’ as in he is far less effective at breaking up play and more effective at creating / scoring (although based on Onyeka’s performance yesterday it looks like he can do everything) - maybe I should’ve said creative rather than attacking

still think Torp is an option at 10 though, but agree he’s a CM against teams that aren’t as much of a threat and we don’t necessarily need two sitting mids

Torps skills are blocking lanes,tippy tappy winning the ball in close contact,doing the intricate stuff passing and scoring worldies.

 

[Mr pot]

Frank Oneyka is the greatest signing I have ever had the pleasure to know in recent history

Completey biased by the fact I am recently married to a Nigerian and her family, have just travelled to Nigeria and a Nigerian footballer who is a total gangster in midfield has propelled my team to the premier league

 

[TomRad85]

Remember Birmingham and the Blunts thought they had a chance of signing this geezer over the league leaders and a legend like Frank Lampard. There are serious levels to this game and these chump clubs really need to stay in their lanes.
At least they were able to pick up Jhon Solis and Kalvin Phillips, i'm sure they are both doing well.... Complete shite you say??!! Oh well, nevermind.

 

[PVA]

He's been superb and exactly what we needed.

The only concern I have is that if he wasn't good enough for the PL then christ the standard next season is going to be unbelievable

 

[TomRad85]

He's been superb and exactly what we needed.

The only concern I have is that if he wasn't good enough for the PL then christ the standard next season is going to be unbelievable

Although i have trouble recognising a League One sized club like Brentford as such, they are a very good team.

 

[shmmeee]

Although i have trouble recognising a League One sized club like Brentford as such, they are a very good team.

There are other PL teams of course. The only interest he got was from the Championship so it’s a fair comment.

 

[MAFF]

I was so negative post Norwich and QPR. I was convinced that Lampard had lost the plot and signing a loan midfielder from Brentford was not going to make a difference.

I was so wrong. He is immense. Made such a massive difference. Exactly what we needed.

Apologies to both Franks.

 

[TomRad85]

There are other PL teams of course. The only interest he got was from the Championship so it’s a fair comment.

Well it's a generic Prem is going to be better comment, which kind of goes without saying. He's one of the players i worry about the least personally but to each their own.

 

[shmmeee]

Well it's a generic Prem is going to be better comment, which kind of goes without saying. He's one of the players i worry about the least personally but to each their own.

I think people generally, not you particularly, are hugely underestimating the step up next season. If players you think are miles above what we have aren’t attracting a sniff of interest even from relegation threatened teams it suggests the rest are miles off the level no matter how much you like them. I’ve seen lots of “we only need one or two, don’t need a full new XI” comments. An average PL player is Hamer/Gyokeres/Rushworth level and stands out a mile at this level. Personally I’m not sure we own any of those and will need to do some serious surgery to the squad in the summer.

 

[CraigSBA]

I think people generally, not you particularly, are hugely underestimating the step up next season. If players you think are miles above what we have aren’t attracting a sniff of interest even from relegation threatened teams it suggests the rest are miles off the level no matter how much you like them. I’ve seen lots of “we only need one or two, don’t need a full new XI” comments. An average PL player is Hamer/Gyokeres/Rushworth level and stands out a mile at this level. Personally I’m not sure we own any of those and will need to do some serious surgery to the squad in the summer.

I watched luke o'nien have a mostly cracking game yesterday and youd argue he wouldnt start here now. i think its more about getting the right blend of players tbh there is definitely a few who are capable of stepping up .. like brentford several years ago

 

[clint van damme]

I think people generally, not you particularly, are hugely underestimating the step up next season. If players you think are miles above what we have aren’t attracting a sniff of interest even from relegation threatened teams it suggests the rest are miles off the level no matter how much you like them. I’ve seen lots of “we only need one or two, don’t need a full new XI” comments. An average PL player is Hamer/Gyokeres/Rushworth level and stands out a mile at this level. Personally I’m not sure we own any of those and will need to do some serious surgery to the squad in the summer.

In what way is the league leaders top scorer an average PL player?

 

[TomRad85]

I think people generally, not you particularly, are hugely underestimating the step up next season. If players you think are miles above what we have aren’t attracting a sniff of interest even from relegation threatened teams it suggests the rest are miles off the level no matter how much you like them. I’ve seen lots of “we only need one or two, don’t need a full new XI” comments. An average PL player is Hamer/Gyokeres/Rushworth level and stands out a mile at this level. Personally I’m not sure we own any of those and will need to do some serious surgery to the squad in the summer.

I don't underestimate the gap, i think we need to do a lot, but i'm also not going to shit on every single player who's won us the league. We have a few who could well surprise. Regardless i think we'll probably sign about 10 players with 7 who end up starting regularly perhaps?
Also, Gyokeres is many levels above Hamer who has never been an average level Prem player, as fun as he was to watch at this level.

Basically i don't agree with people that think we'll do minimal business but i think you are exceptionally harsh on the guys giving us our best season in a quarter of a century.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I don't underestimate the gap, i think we need to do a lot, but i'm also not going to shit on every single player who's won us the league. We have a few who could well surprise. Regardless i think we'll probably sign about 10 players with 7 who end up starting regularly perhaps?
Also, Gyokeres is many levels above Hamer who has never been an average level Prem player, as fun as he was to watch at this level.

Basically i don't agree with people that think we'll do minimal business but i think you are exceptionally harsh on the guys giving us our best season in a quarter of a century.

He’s trying to save face as he called Onyeka a failed prem player and said we shouldn’t sign him

 

[TomRad85]

I watched luke o'nien have a mostly cracking game yesterday and youd argue he wouldnt start here now. i think its more about getting the right blend of players tbh there is definitely a few who are capable of stepping up .. like brentford several years ago

I think people on here were basically melting down when we were linked with O'Nien in Jan
Tbf i dunno how that fucker is player Premier League football but fair play to him i suppose.

 

[clint van damme]

I think people on here were basically melting down when we were linked with O'Nien in Jan
Tbf i dunno how that fucker is player Premier League football but fair play to him i suppose.

Some players will sink and some will swim when they try to make the step up.
Hopefully more of ours do the latter.

 

[TomRad85]

Some players will sink and some will swim when they try to make the step up.
Hopefully more of ours do the latter.

Yes exactly, i don't think its as basic as some suggest. You never really know, although yes obviously i still think we need to do a good amount of business.
Been saying about Flemming at Burnley for a while, i always knew he was a very good Championship player but i didn't expect him to excel in the Prem. I'd imagine he'll be on a few shopping lists when they are relegated.

 

[Alkhen]

Anyone else have the feeling that the reason Frank isn't still in the Prem isn't to do with his ability but more to do with the fact they have VAR scrutinizing every challenge! I reckon he'd have had a couple of reds already

Absolutely what we needed to get back on track this season, might need to work on that side of his game in the summer though

 

[shmmeee]

I don’t think saying “it’s a big jump” is “shitting on the current players”. I just think being dispassionate about it the jump is huge and most players won’t make it and if they look like they could they’d generally have attracted bids already. I think Wright is the only one there’s been confirmed interest in an he’s top scorer.

Gyokeres has developed since leaving us and didn’t attract major interest from top clubs when he left. But when he was here he was miles above most in the division. Jack Clarke is another who looks way above this level but isn’t up to the PL. Hamer is one of the best players at this level but only managed a relegated side and has had not interest otherwise.

The point is that even players like Hackney might not make it. The jump is that big and just looking at a player and saying he looks good here isn’t enough.

Yes there will always be exceptions like O’Nein but they’re notable because they are exceptions not the rule.

Onyeka has failed to break into a midtable PL side or attract interest from other PL sides. If you are of the belief that he’s head and shoulders above the rest of the squad then it’s you saying the rest of the squad are nowhere near the level, not me.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

He's been superb and exactly what we needed.

The only concern I have is that if he wasn't good enough for the PL then christ the standard next season is going to be unbelievable

Not good enough for a top half side, his game time declined as Brentford improved year on year.

At worst, he’s still going to be a solid squad player in the prem.

 

[CraigSBA]

I think people on here were basically melting down when we were linked with O'Nien in Jan
Tbf i dunno how that fucker is player Premier League football but fair play to him i suppose.

Yesterday they started with rigg, o'nein and hume from last season

We have to bear in mind we are going to probably finish around 15 points ahead of their total last season we are a far better side than they were

 

[clint van damme]

I don’t think saying “it’s a big jump” is “shitting on the current players”. I just think being dispassionate about it the jump is huge and most players won’t make it and if they look like they could they’d generally have attracted bids already. I think Wright is the only one there’s been confirmed interest in an he’s top scorer.

Gyokeres has developed since leaving us and didn’t attract major interest from top clubs when he left. But when he was here he was miles above most in the division. Jack Clarke is another who looks way above this level but isn’t up to the PL.

The point is that even players like Hackney might not make it. The jump is that big and just looking at a player and saying he looks good here isn’t enough.

Yes there will always be exceptions like O’Nein but they’re notable because they are exceptions not the rule.

Onyeka has failed to break into a midtable PL side or attract interest from other PL sides. If you are of the belief that he’s head and shoulders above the rest of the squad then it’s you saying the rest of the squad are nowhere near the level, not me.

The current squad are nowhere near the level, if they were they'd already be there.
That's hardly a ground breaking revelation. But players can develop into PL quality.
Lampards job is to identify those that can and replace those that can't.

 

[Marty]

We're going to need pritty much a new team, I can't see King doing that, so I think we'll be preparing for the 27/28 championship season with a new batch of kids, but at a higher level than we currently have.

 

[TomRad85]

Yesterday they started with rigg, o'nein and hume from last season

We have to bear in mind we are going to probably finish around 15 points ahead of their total last season we are a far better side than they were

I agree, we're a much better team than last seasons Sunderland.