Brighton Sky Blue
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Boris lad during his last however many months in office.
Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (20 Viewers)
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Grendel
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I actually don’t think so in the sense he still had supporters - with Starmer he’s got less distractors but also less supporters. It’s dislike or just indifference
The only reason Reform and the Greens are hovering is because of him and his clueless idiot chancellor.
I suspect the bloodbath in May will mean they are both fucked for good.
Grendel
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I don’t count Liz Truss I just forget about her but this sums it up really
www.theguardian.com
‘Jellyfish’ and ‘doormat’: why is Keir Starmer so deeply unpopular?
From his public persona to a sense that he sold the country a pup, many factors seem to feed a sense of ‘great dislike’
Brighton Sky Blue
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Just going on job approval, Starmer is tracking a bit worse than Johnson even at his peak, though it's close.
How well is Boris Johnson doing as Prime Minister?
Do you think that Boris Johnson is doing well or badly as Prime Minister?
yougov.com
How well is Keir Starmer doing as Prime Minister?
Do you think that Keir Starmer is doing well or badly as Prime Minister?
yougov.com
Johnson peak 'bad' was -51, Starmer currently -55.
skybluetony176
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You’re either being very disingenuous or have an extremely short memory. Liz Truss broke all records and by some distance for nett approval. She didn’t even enjoy a honeymoon period. Starmer has to fall another 20 plus points to match her
Grendel
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I think I’ve already said that Tonester but it’s scraping the barrel to try and say “hey I’m better than Liz but not as good as Bojo”
What a slogan
Brighton Sky Blue
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Sunak was also at -50 in his last few months.
Grendel
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He was as Starmer and Reeves keep blathering on about at the arse end of “14 years of failure” - so you’d think the new bright dawning light of the new beginnings should be better - not worse!
skybluetony176
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It’s not a good slogan at all but I never said it was. That’s just your whataboutery. The ultimate irony that policy wise there’s a gnats cock between Boris and Starmer, renationalising railways aside.
If we’re doing whataboutery do you think Boris would have blindly followed the US and Israel in bombing Iran. I suspect at least he would have allowed airbases on British soil to be used for launching the attacks. I mean after all Boris did consider invading Netherlands to get COVID jabs so he sounds stupid enough to follow Israel and the US into Iran.
Brighton Sky Blue
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I agree. He was given an enormous majority and started out with goodwill and a clean slate from the electorate.
Within months it became apparent he was almost on a solo mission to become as unpopular as possible. I say almost, his sidekick Severus Snape is even worse.
Grendel
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Blimey
skybluetony176
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You should read both their manifestos. Then put them into a Venn diagram, lots of overlap, lots.
Do you think Boris would have involved us in the Iran war?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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And both those alternatives would have very different responses. One would steadfastly oppose, the other would jump in with the US so enthusiastically it'd make Starmer look he's giving strong opposition to the US.
Sky Blue Pete
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Can’t work it out. He’s got to be insane surely
Schedules extremely tight, how will he fit it all in.
Sick Boy
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I have a feeling it will never be heard about again.
Sky Blue Pete
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Interesting
www.bbc.co.uk
Wow
Top US counterterrorism official Joe Kent resigns over Iran war
National Counterterrorism Center Director Joe Kent says Trump "started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby".
www.bbc.co.uk
Wow
fatso
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Not a suprise, ive said before that Israel runs things.Interesting
Top US counterterrorism official Joe Kent resigns over Iran war
National Counterterrorism Center Director Joe Kent says Trump "started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby".
Wow
Grendel
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Interesting
Top US counterterrorism official Joe Kent resigns over Iran war
National Counterterrorism Center Director Joe Kent says Trump "started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby".
Wow
Not really. A lot of the right wing media in the US are divided - even traditional Trump supporters like Tucker Carlson are questioning him. The spat between Megyn Kelly and mark Levin on X is hilarious
Sick Boy
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Ultimately, the war will end up being his downfall.
Brighton Sky Blue
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There’s that but there’s also serious issues over his handling of the economy, his approval on that is in the toilet. Funnily enough what his voters were warned would happen is coming to pass, if anything even worse than his opponents thought.
Grendel
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Even Bannon is against him on it
He was already on for a drubbing in the midterms, but this will be the final nail in the coffin.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Sky Blue Pete
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Not interesting ok then
Flying Fokker
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From Democracy Now. On Facebook
This is beyond brutal...
"We have five reasons to say no to him, in fact," said Yakovleff. "So, the first one is that he didn't understand that if he wants to carry out a NATO operation, NATO has to take command. So, there will be an American general, but it's a single operation."
“You can’t have an American operation where they’re bombing whatever they can and then below that, the Europeans doing something else,” Yakovleff said. “No, no, no, it has to be one sole operation, under a NATO flag. I don’t think he understood that.”
Yakovleff served as a three general in the French Army, was commander of the French Foreign Legion, and served in top positions in NATO. He's a highly respected military expert in France and regularly weighs in on issues of international importance.
Trump has been pleading with allied nations to get involved in his Iran fiasco. Iranian missiles and drones have made it impossible for oil tankers to obtain insurance to traverse the Strait of Hormuz, through which 20% of the world's petroleum normally passes. Oil prices are skyrocketing. So far, Japan, Australia, the United Kingdom, and the European Union have refused Trump's request.
General Yakovleff went on to point out that Trump's strategic goals, beyond forcing open the strait, are vague and undefined. If NATO nations were even going to consider involvement, they would need the United States to explain explicitly in writing what the goals are.
"And it's not tweets, and it's not things that change every two minutes. So, already there, it's going to be necessary for Trump himself to know what he wants," said the general.
He said that there's also the issue of the lack of "confidence" in Trump. It's well-known that he regularly abandons his allies and he could do so here immediately after other nations got involved.
“He would let us down whenever it suited him," said Yakovleff.
He ended his tirade by comparing Trump to the captain of the Titanic trying to "sell cheap tickets" for his voyage "after having hit the iceberg."
“And the last argument is American: you don’t reinforce failure. I learnt that at the U.S. Army War College. You don’t reinforce failure, you move on, you find something else.” he added. "So, there are a lot of reasons to say no."
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This is beyond brutal...
"We have five reasons to say no to him, in fact," said Yakovleff. "So, the first one is that he didn't understand that if he wants to carry out a NATO operation, NATO has to take command. So, there will be an American general, but it's a single operation."
“You can’t have an American operation where they’re bombing whatever they can and then below that, the Europeans doing something else,” Yakovleff said. “No, no, no, it has to be one sole operation, under a NATO flag. I don’t think he understood that.”
Yakovleff served as a three general in the French Army, was commander of the French Foreign Legion, and served in top positions in NATO. He's a highly respected military expert in France and regularly weighs in on issues of international importance.
Trump has been pleading with allied nations to get involved in his Iran fiasco. Iranian missiles and drones have made it impossible for oil tankers to obtain insurance to traverse the Strait of Hormuz, through which 20% of the world's petroleum normally passes. Oil prices are skyrocketing. So far, Japan, Australia, the United Kingdom, and the European Union have refused Trump's request.
General Yakovleff went on to point out that Trump's strategic goals, beyond forcing open the strait, are vague and undefined. If NATO nations were even going to consider involvement, they would need the United States to explain explicitly in writing what the goals are.
"And it's not tweets, and it's not things that change every two minutes. So, already there, it's going to be necessary for Trump himself to know what he wants," said the general.
He said that there's also the issue of the lack of "confidence" in Trump. It's well-known that he regularly abandons his allies and he could do so here immediately after other nations got involved.
“He would let us down whenever it suited him," said Yakovleff.
He ended his tirade by comparing Trump to the captain of the Titanic trying to "sell cheap tickets" for his voyage "after having hit the iceberg."
“And the last argument is American: you don’t reinforce failure. I learnt that at the U.S. Army War College. You don’t reinforce failure, you move on, you find something else.” he added. "So, there are a lot of reasons to say no."
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He’s all over the shop. Split his base, pissed off a load of the population who will be seeing energy/petrol prices rise and alienated allies
The only way he can salvage any kind of credibility is if there is an uprising but not sure how likely that is
LarryGrayson
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has he ever had credibility to salvage
Brighton Sky Blue
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He clearly thought all he had to do was kill the Ayatollah and he'd be able to steal whatever he wanted from Iran like he did Venezuela.
Now the US military is being bled dry financially by dirt cheap Iranian drones against which the US and Israel cannot keep affording to pay defence. This has now shown the rest of the world what to do against the US, it's a blueprint that requires little money and you don't even need a nuclear program either.
His sycophants on here have been quiet for some time now, and understandably so.
Now the US military is being bled dry financially by dirt cheap Iranian drones against which the US and Israel cannot keep affording to pay defence. This has now shown the rest of the world what to do against the US, it's a blueprint that requires little money and you don't even need a nuclear program either.
His sycophants on here have been quiet for some time now, and understandably so.
Flying Fokker
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Just published:
