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[covcity4life]

don think so. think evo was just pointing he was grossly out his depth

Yeah fair enough I'll take it back. Apologies

As for johal I think when there is a glass ceiling the first guy to break through it(with an assist of ownership) will always be out of depth

Hopefully more follow in his footsteps now.

 

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[wingy]

Yeah fair enough I'll take it back. Apologies

As for johal I think when there is a glass ceiling the first guy to break through it(with an assist of ownership) will always be out of depth

Hopefully more follow in his footsteps now.

Likely, but I guess the problem seems to be with the amount of players from the same demographic, not too many breaking through on that front?

 

[covcity4life]

Likely, but I guess the problem seems to be with the amount of players from the same demographic, not too many breaking through on that front?

Nope . I mean a few have made it but it's still extremely slow progress

 

[CraigSBA]

Hopefully we have seen the last of British Asian managers!

On a seperate note , why dont we see too many asian pro footballers in the uk ?

Cultural ? By that i mean bigger sports such as cricket

 

[Ccfcisparks]

On a seperate note , why dont we see too many asian pro footballers in the uk ?

Cultural ? By that i mean bigger sports such as cricket

Why do you keep switching between your accounts !!!

 

[CraigSBA]

Why do you keep switching between your accounts !!!

I really want to switch to this account if im honest .. its just alot of history to let go of


ben stevenson better than maddison , the whole robins era , you in my basement

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I really want to switch to this account if im honest .. its just alot of history to let go of


ben stevenson better than maddison , the whole robins era , you in my basement

Do it! just pull the trigger

 

[CraigSBA]

Do it! just pull the trigger

If we beat southampton tomorrow il do it 100%

Just a bit superstitious

 

[Ccfcisparks]

If we beat southampton tomorrow il do it 100%

Just a bit superstitious

New era for Cov, new era for Evo

 

[covcity4life]

On a seperate note , why dont we see too many asian pro footballers in the uk ?

Cultural ? By that i mean bigger sports such as cricket

Nah not the cricket thing. Football much more popular with Asians in UK than cricket.

It's hard to put finger on it. Especially me a couch potato

But I'd say it's a mix of institutional racism holding players back, a lack of beliefs in the system from Asian players so go different paths but also I think all Asian clubs etc stop players becoming the best they can be by not playing with white and black players etc

Also genetics. How often do you see an Asian with a 6 pack? Even the cricket team best in the world have pot bellies lol. I honestly believe this. Like back sprinters are the fastest . Muscle twitch fibres and all that. I'm sure I've read Asian people store fat in belly easier than other races .

Maybe I'm chatting shit but it's my theory

Do it! just pull the trigger

No don't do it. You are evo. This journey was loved by Evo not Craig. You will regret it

 

[Liquid Gold]

Shame it didn't work out for him but by the end he was probably doing worse for the reputation of Asian coaches as he was clearly out of his depth and just got the job through his mates.

The FA have set a target to get BAME coaches through the national set up. Hopefully that starts to run through to the club game

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

If we beat southampton tomorrow il do it 100%

Just a bit superstitious

What’s the prompt for switching accounts?

 

[CraigSBA]

What’s the prompt for switching accounts?

Fancy something new , opinions of old that dont represent who i am anymore .. sprinkled with a small OCD struggle i have going on

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Fancy something new , opinions of old that dont represent who i am anymore .. sprinkled with a small OCD struggle i have going on

Fair. I’ve thought about similar with this account too, but over 14 years on it it’s a bit tough to let go.

 

[Hiraeth]

But I'd say it's a mix of institutional racism holding players back, a lack of beliefs in the system from Asian players so go different paths but also I think all Asian clubs etc stop players becoming the best they can be by not playing with white and black players etc

I'm not Asian myself but found your response really interesting.

Seen a bit of Tier 5 Women's football and the teams and squads seemed more racially mixed including Asian women without noticeable performance level issues in any particular race.

I know racism hasn't gone away but are you saying that there are 'Asian clubs' in this country that will generally only play with a team of Asian players / men ?

If that is the case and I'm not out to make a point about whether or not that's possibly racist in itself - I wonder why in 2026, that separation / segregation is felt necessary or preferred - is it just that change isn't always easy to make or am I overthinking all of this ?

 

[TomRad85]

Nah not the cricket thing. Football much more popular with Asians in UK than cricket.

It's hard to put finger on it. Especially me a couch potato

But I'd say it's a mix of institutional racism holding players back, a lack of beliefs in the system from Asian players so go different paths but also I think all Asian clubs etc stop players becoming the best they can be by not playing with white and black players etc

Also genetics. How often do you see an Asian with a 6 pack? Even the cricket team best in the world have pot bellies lol. I honestly believe this. Like back sprinters are the fastest . Muscle twitch fibres and all that. I'm sure I've read Asian people store fat in belly easier than other races .

Maybe I'm chatting shit but it's my theory

No don't do it. You are evo. This journey was loved by Evo not Craig. You will regret it

I will say we've discussed it in depth on here before and its an interesting topic which a lot of people have opinions on. But I went to India for work, spent a lot of time with a guy who's now a good friend of mine. He's football crazy, i think he actually played for Goa but it obviously didn't pay that well.
Anyway he basically just said yeh, genetics. Said "look at you and look at all guys here, that's why" i mean tbf I was pretty trim then (not now) but just my height, body shape etc. Fairly normal here, not there.
He also said the secondary issue was the facilities being crap. Although obviously that's not an issue for British based Asians.

 

[TomRad85]

I'm not Asian myself but found your response really interesting.

Seen a bit of Tier 5 Women's football and the teams and squads seemed more racially mixed including Asian women without noticeable performance level issues in any particular race.

I know racism hasn't gone away but are you saying that there are 'Asian clubs' in this country that will generally only play with a team of Asian players / men ?

If that is the case and I'm not out to make a point about whether or not that's possibly racist in itself - I wonder why in 2026, that separation / segregation is felt necessary or preferred - is it just that change isn't always easy to make or am I overthinking all of this ?

I joined an 'Asian only' football team many years ago just before I moved to London, was literally only a couple of games as I wasn't planning on moving away when I signed up.
Got in because the Asian guy in our 5 a side team played for them and bought me and 2 others along as we wanted to get back into 11 a side again. Anyway thats some pointless back story, I suppose it is a bit weird when you think about it but it never felt racist, they were all good lads.

 

[covcity4life]

It's not a racist thing. How many Sunday league teams are all white? Loads. Most.

No Asian club says no white players. It's just people from same sorta background playing where they feel comfortable

Just like regulars at a pub all play together

But Asian players Asian coaches. I think can benefit from mixing it up

I've already been asked to enroll my son in a Indian footy camp. But tbh I'll try get him into christ the king or whatever other Sunday league teams there are in cov. Rather he plays with and against kids of different backgrounds. Just to make friends let alone get good at football!

 

[Hiraeth]

But Asian players Asian coaches. I think can benefit from mixing it up

Thank you for taking the post in the spirit it was intended.

I appreciated your honest opinion and I wasn't trying to be a dick about it so thank you - think everyone can benefit from mixing it up to be fair, works both ways.

 

[covcity4life]

Thank you for taking the post in the spirit it was intended.

I appreciated your honest opinion and I wasn't trying to be a dick about it so thank you - think everyone can benefit from mixing it up to be fair, works both ways.

I'm always happy to have these conversations

Some get rattled when race brought into it(maybe me included sometimes) but if you come from a good place it's all ok.

Btw Tomrad seems like one of my white mates from the sound of it lol

 

[Ccfcisparks]

My partner is Indian and she thinks a lot of it is down to genetic's coupled with a really poor diet when growing up.

 

[covcity4life]

My partner is Indian and she thinks a lot of it is down to genetic's coupled with a really poor diet when growing up.

Yeah I'd be playing for cov right now if not for my mum putting butter on everything lol

 

[Liquid Gold]

I don't think facilities come into it. Rural Senegal or Cameroon don't have the facilities but the joy of football is that you only need a ball and you can play. I've spent a bit of time around Africa with work and there are always kids playing everywhere and some obviously make it all the way.

I find it baffling that there has never been a top footballer from the subcontinent. The population alone should mean even if there is a tiny fraction of a percentage someone would be good enough.

 

[alexccfc99]

I don't think facilities come into it. Rural Senegal or Cameroon don't have the facilities but the joy of football is that you only need a ball and you can play. I've spent a bit of time around Africa with work and there are always kids playing everywhere and some obviously make it all the way.

I find it baffling that there has never been a top footballer from the subcontinent. The population alone should mean even if there is a tiny fraction of a percentage someone would be good enough.

I worked with an Indian lad in my last job, born and raised there and here on a working VISA and I asked him how a country of nearly 2bn people can't string 11 half decent footballers together

Answer he told me in effect was the dominance of Cricket - It is bled in to young boys the minute they are out of the womb, Cricket is probably bigger in India than football is in this country, PE in school is just cricket practice in effect, all the government money into grassroots sports goes into cricket (Knock on effect of that is a limited number of proper pitches and professional coaches), kids in Indian schools who would rather play football over cricket would just be seen as a bit odd

He did say however just one Indian player playing regularly at Premier League level for a decent side, very similar to Son in his pomp at Tottenham could change things, Indians are very fanatic and one figure to inspire the kids of today could work wonders for the growth of the sport there

 

[covcity4life]

I worked with an Indian lad in my last job, born and raised there and here on a working VISA and I asked him how a country of nearly 2bn people can't string 11 half decent footballers together

Answer he told me in effect was the dominance of Cricket - It is bled in to young boys the minute they are out of the womb, Cricket is probably bigger in India than football is in this country, PE in school is just cricket practice in effect, all the government money into grassroots sports goes into cricket (Knock on effect of that is a limited number of proper pitches and professional coaches), kids in Indian schools who would rather play football over cricket would just be seen as a bit odd

He did say however just one Indian player playing regularly at Premier League level for a decent side, very similar to Son in his pomp at Tottenham could change things, Indians are very fanatic and one figure to inspire the kids of today could work wonders for the growth of the sport there

Yeah I agree in India it's all about cricket for sure

But British Asian wise you can't put it down to that or facilities

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

There’s a British Sri Lankan playing for Barnsley at the moment I think, no others come to mind.

 

[TomRad85]

There’s a British Sri Lankan playing for Barnsley at the moment I think, no others come to mind.

Yan Dhanda plays in the SPL, but he's half i think, which probably backs up genetics playing a part. Michael Chopra was the most successful i suppose, again half wasn't he, I think?

 

[TomRad85]

I remember Sunil Chettri having a trial at CCFC. He's a national hero over there but never better than Indian league standard.
The amount of traffic online you'd generate if you could unearth a top level footballer from India to play in a good standard league would be insane.

 

[alexccfc99]

There’s a British Sri Lankan playing for Barnsley at the moment I think, no others come to mind.

Michael Chopra was of Indian descent, as was Danny Batth and Neil Taylor who used to be at Wolves and The Villa respectively

Zesh Rahmen played a few games for PL Fulham and he was a Pakistan international

Choudhury from Festa is a Bangladeshi international

 

[Ccfcisparks]

There was a Lb at walsall too who i think was a punjabi.

I used to play football with an academy lad who was half punjabi and played for Walsall

 

[TomRad85]

Vikash Dhorasoo (Mauritius) was the best by a country mile. I actually know his cousin.

 

[LarryGrayson]

Vikash Dhorasoo (Mauritius) was the best by a country mile. I actually know his cousin.

name dripper

 

[alexccfc99]

There was a Lb at walsall too who i think was a punjabi.

I used to play football with an academy lad who was half punjabi and played for Walsall

Mal Benning decent player at that level

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Michael Chopra was of Indian descent, as was Danny Batth and Neil Taylor who used to be at Wolves and The Villa respectively

Zesh Rahmen played a few games for PL Fulham and he was a Pakistan international

Choudhury from Festa is a Bangladeshi international

I mean the lad at Barnsley isn’t just ‘of descent’, both parents are Sri Lankan.

 

[covcity4life]

There are definitely more examples now than they were 10,20 years ago

It is moving forwards just very slowly.