Tactically - Lampard is pretty good (40 Viewers)

[clint van damme]

Onyeka seems to be more of a talisman because he made the fewest defensive contributions of all the midfielders, barely touched the ball yesterday and had by far the lowest rating of those who started, yet is still getting credit. I would say having a CB who can defend has done more for us tbh.

But as Brighton said, its our shape, its so much better with him in the team.

 

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[Sick Boy]

But as Brighton said, its our shape, its so much better with him in the team.

It’s clear a lot of work has been done on the training ground. Massive credit to FL and the coaches.

 

[covcity4life]

It’s clear a lot of work has been done on the training ground. Massive credit to FL and the coaches.

Ya it's not as simple as onyenka in and now we defend better

 

[TomRad85]

Ya it's not as simple as onyenka in and now we defend better

Time to dig out the elite tactician meme?

 

[clint van damme]

Ya it's not as simple as onyenka in and now we defend better

No. Its more nuanced, but his signing is a major factor.
Grimes was being left hung out to dry on his own.

 

[Nick]

No. Its more nuanced, but his signing is a major factor.
Grimes was being left hung out to dry on his own.

Grimes seems to be pushing on a lot more as well.

Although yesterday yeah Onyeka wasn't as in the spotlight as his first 2 games but still made a very good interception just as they were about to shoot.

 

[oneofourown]

Onyeka presence is doing wonders for the team and now teams are focusing on him more than on Grimes. If we get to the promised land, which is becoming more of a reality game by game we have to get used to seeing quality. That is no disrespect to our lads but they need a few calming influences that can take the fluid out of an opponent and can instill authority in our play. FL can do so much but you need brains and it is no coincidence that since Lati came in the defence seems more resilient. Lati is a smart player.

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

Onyeka presence is doing wonders for the team and now teams are focusing on him more than on Grimes. If we get to the promised land, which is becoming more of a reality game by game we have to get used to seeing quality. That is no disrespect to our lads but they need a few calming influences that can take the fluid out of an opponent and can instill authority in our play. FL can do so much but you need brains and it is no coincidence that since Lati came in the defence seems more resilient. Lati is a smart player.

It's ironic that a lot of the players we paid money are only making the bench and sometimes not even there..

 

[SBAndy]

Onyeka seems to be more of a talisman because he made the fewest defensive contributions of all the midfielders, barely touched the ball yesterday and had by far the lowest rating of those who started, yet is still getting credit. I would say having a CB who can defend has done more for us tbh.

Maybe I’m mad, but I’d be intrigued by him playing CB.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It's ironic that a lot of the players we paid money are only making the bench and sometimes not even there..

Eh? We paid money for nearly every player in the starting line up yesterday.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Onyeka seems to be more of a talisman because he made the fewest defensive contributions of all the midfielders, barely touched the ball yesterday and had by far the lowest rating of those who started, yet is still getting credit. I would say having a CB who can defend has done more for us tbh.

Exactly what a man who said he would be a shite signing would say

 

[TomRad85]

Exactly what a man who said he would be a shite signing would say

He's been an outstanding pick up for us. Just what we needed.

 

[Gint11]

Onyeka is the missing piece to our jigsaw but the unsung hero of the season is Rushworth. Class act. He needs a song

 

[TomRad85]

Onyeka is the missing piece to our jigsaw but the unsung hero of the season is Rushworth. Class act. He needs a song

I don't think he's particularly unsung tbf. Everyone thinks hes great.

 

[Ricketts]

Onyeka is the missing piece to our jigsaw but the unsung hero of the season is Rushworth. Class act. He needs a song

To the tune of Sam Cooke, wonderful world.

His sheets are clean
He plays for sky blues
Oh Carl Rushworth, we love you
It’s fantastic to see, what a wonderful save
It’s amazing to see, What a wonderful save

 

[clint van damme]

I don't think he's particularly unsung tbf. Everyone thinks hes great.

Just got a shit name for the purpose of lyric writing!

 

[Evo1883]

Onyeka seems to be more of a talisman because he made the fewest defensive contributions of all the midfielders, barely touched the ball yesterday and had by far the lowest rating of those who started, yet is still getting credit. I would say having a CB who can defend has done more for us tbh.

His worse game so far for us .. but last 2 games he was superb

 

[TomRad85]

Just got a shit name for the purpose of lyric writing!

Time to dig out the "England's number 1" song

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Just got a shit name for the purpose of lyric writing!

Simple:

He dives to the left
He dives to the riiiiiight
Super Carl Rushworth
He's fucking dynamite

Or you can do as the Rangers fans did for Allan McGregor and change the last line to 'shags 10 birds a night'...

 

[clint van damme]

Time to dig out the "England's number 1" song

We were singing that at West brom!

 

[TomRad85]

We were singing that at West brom!

Oh I didn't hear that. Nice work.

 

[clint van damme]

Oh I didn't hear that. Nice work.

Yeah, didn't really take off. Probably got a (muted) airing last night as well

 

[covcity4life]

No. Its more nuanced, but his signing is a major factor.
Grimes was being left hung out to dry on his own.

It's definitely helped don't get me wrong

 

[nicksar]

Maybe I’m mad, but I’d be intrigued by him playing CB.

He played CB as a youth player.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

The point LG was trying to make that Lampard isn't good tactically based on cherry picking of an at worse indifferent period of form which he exaggerated to be worse than it really was. Further to that, in doing so also ignoring that Lampard got the team into record breaking form in the first place.

For arguments sake, even if we did bottle it (which we won’t), going into the season the consensus was that this team wasn’t a Top 2 team. So the conclusion is Lampard isn’t good tactically is just a ridiculous viewpoint.

When people talk about the last 13 games, they only mean away form specifically and even so, there were games where the performances deserved a better result.

In any case, Ipswich and ourselves have more or less played all the best at home and our away form should overtake Boro’s imo. They have by the most difficult run on the road to close the season.

On paper, Swansea is our toughest away game and their season could be over by 21/03.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

No. Its more nuanced, but his signing is a major factor.
Grimes was being left hung out to dry on his own.

It’s more tactical to be fair and the switch has happened at Oxford at home with Torp and even tweaks v Leicester (H).

The 3-1-6 shape was high risk, high reward strategy that unfortunately exposed us to too much risk. Onyeka and Grimes are playing as a partnership in a more defined 2 CM partnership and they complement each other well.

 

[clint van damme]

It’s more tactical to be fair and the switch has happened at Oxford at home with Torp and even tweaks v Leicester (H).

The 3-1-6 shape was high risk, high reward strategy that unfortunately exposed us to too much risk. Onyeka and Grimes are playing as a partnership in a more defined 2 CM partnership and they complement each other well.

But we struggled to solve the issues leaving Grimes on his own was causing on the road with the players we already had.
Onyeka arrives, 2 wins in 2.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

But we struggled to solve the issues leaving Grimes on his own was causing on the road with the players we already had.
Onyeka arrives, 2 wins in 2.

Yep

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

But we struggled to solve the issues leaving Grimes on his own was causing on the road with the players we already had.
Onyeka arrives, 2 wins in 2.

Onyeka is better than Torp and Grimes imo. He’s a solid Prem squad player so he will improve us and that’s a view I held before we signed him.

Grimes wasn’t ‘isolated’ on his own as he would mostly be sat alongside the CBs. Torp would be between the line of 3 and the front 2 pressers (Rudoni and Wright). That was the isolation point and frankly, the tactics and shape needed to be changed because teams could get at us far too easily.

The last 3 games we’ve averaged less than 35-40% possession which is a clear change from QPR, Norwich, Birmingham and Charlton away. As well as bringing Onyeka in, the tactics have also changed and it’s not just down to changing one player.

Sakamoto has also profited greatly from the tactical changes because his off the ball work has always been his best asset.

 

[SIR ERNIE]

Those last 30 mins at Loftus Road could turn out to be a key point of our season.
It laid bare the stupidity of our full backs bombing forward when we just needed to protect an away lead.
We paid the price there and since then JDS and MVE have been far more disciplined.
The addition of Onyeka has given even more solidity to the away shape.
Credit to Latibeaudiere too.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Onyeka is better than Torp and Grimes imo. He’s a solid Prem squad player so he will improve us and that’s a view I held before we signed him.

Grimes wasn’t ‘isolated’ on his own as he would mostly be sat alongside the CBs. Torp would be between the line of 3 and the front 2 pressers (Rudoni and Wright). That was the isolation point and frankly, the tactics and shape needed to be changed because teams could get at us far too easily.

The last 3 games we’ve averaged less than 35-40% possession which is a clear change from QPR, Norwich, Birmingham and Charlton away. As well as bringing Onyeka in, the tactics have also changed and it’s not just down to changing one player.

Sakamoto has also profited greatly from the tactical changes because his off the ball work has always been his best asset.

I’m interested to see how things go against a Stoke side who you’d expect to sit in deep and hit on the break in classic MR style. That’s been an Achilles heel for us and we couldn’t break Oxford down doing it the other week.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Y

I’m interested to see how things go against a Stoke side who you’d expect to sit in deep and hit on the break in classic MR style. That’s been an Achilles heel for us and we couldn’t break Oxford down doing it the other week.

You'd have to expect giving us being at home it should overwhelm them

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Y

You'd have to expect giving us being at home it should overwhelm them

I think it’s one where unless we score early we’re in for a long afternoon.

 

[TomRad85]

I think it’s one where unless we score early we’re in for a long afternoon.

Stoke played for a 0-0 against us at their place and in much better form at the time. You are right, they will sit in and hope for the best. An early one would be nice to force them to try and play.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I’m interested to see how things go against a Stoke side who you’d expect to sit in deep and hit on the break in classic MR style. That’s been an Achilles heel for us and we couldn’t break Oxford down doing it the other week.

Honestly? I think we’ll beat them comfortably. Their away form is decent but have also lost 7 games and as also, back us to score 2 goals most home games.