Match Thread Queens Park Rangers - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 31st Jan (28 Viewers)

Hobo

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Just one example. There have been a few more as well. Furlong??

Sakamoto does dive like a rag doll on occasions. He did it front of where I sit v Ipswich when the Ipswich player pulled out of a challenge. Sakamoto kept his head down while the ref gave him a knowing look and gave the throw to them.

All footballers try and con refs. Grimes and Eccles are probably the best for us at buying cheap free kicks.
 

Evo1883

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Sakamoto does dive like a rag doll on occasions. He did it front of where I sit v Ipswich when the Ipswich player pulled out of a challenge. Sakamoto kept his head down while the ref gave him a knowing look and gave the throw to them.

All footballers try and con refs. Grimes and Eccles are probably the best for us at buying cheap free kicks.

He was dreadful for their winner , far too weak .

Fact is hes another player that gives us moments rather than consistentcy
 

David O'Day

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Today wasn't about tactics, everyone just played shite, really fucking shite.

We are fucking lucky Ipswich don't seem to want to really go up as well.

Something has to change, not sacking Lampard as that isn't going to happen but the players need to realise they can not just go and play around teams.
 

StrettoBoy

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The only good thing about today is that it has taken some of the pressure off me.

In late November, when we were flying high, I started worrying that we would collapse in the same way that we did in 2015/16 under Mowbray. As our performances dipped, I became increasingly stressed.

The stress has been lifted today because I’m now 99% sure that we won’t be promoted, so there is no point in worrying. If by some miracle we do go up, it will just be an unexpected bonus.

I’ll start worrying again next season because I don’t think it impossible that we could be struggling near the bottom of the Championship.

Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
 

Hobo

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I was out today so didn’t see or listen to the match. I have just watched the extended highlights and I have to say what a great goal we scored. An excellent cross by Rudoni, great movement by Eccles to come round the back and head it in at the far post. It was a peach of a goal.

A genuine top of the table side would have hung on to that, or at least come away with a draw. But no, we are still vulnerable to a ball popped in behind defenders for a runner getting behind us. Defenders are just being passed out of the game. Their firsts goal Kitching and Dasilva caught out too high and an acre behind them. For a lot of games now Kitching can’t win a tackle or a header to save his life.

Second one shows how weak Sakamoto can be on the ball. Yes he works hard, yes he tracks back, but it is often ineffective. Once he gets turned over again we are vulnerable to a pass in behind the defender to a runner and from there on we are all over the place.

We have to find away to become tighter at the back. Team after team are targeting our weakness, it’s not a player, it is the way we play. The fact we got away with it in the first part of the season, doesn’t mean it wasn’t a weakness or we were not susceptible to giving teams too many chances.

We are still in a very strong position to get promotion. But we need to become harder to beat. It is now time for Frank Lampard and Joe Edward’s to show how good they really are as leaders and tactically.
 
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Potbellypig

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Not really worth changing anything tactically for the next 2 games, but away from home we need to set up with more behind the ball out of possession. A proper 4-5-1, not this 4-1-3-2 that we do.

Male, 40, FA Level 1 Coaching Badge
 

Hobo

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Not really worth changing anything tactically for the next 2 games, but away from home we need to set up with more behind the ball out of possession. A proper 4-5-1, not this 4-1-3-2 that we do.

Male, 40, FA Level 1 Coaching Badge

I agree in the main, but even at home we could benefit from a few tweaks rather than a radical change.

Level 1 too, just a lot older 😝
 

Skyblueweeman

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Well. 3rd away game of the season and what a game to choose.

Negatives: Probably been covered Ad Nasuem

Positives: Despite the small spaces (yay me), I actually liked Loftus Rd. Proper old school ground. Got home to see the kids before bed.

Next three are must wins. If we get one or two more in to shake things up and do that, then we're still in pole position.

Something needs to change though. Today was dire. And I'm normally one of the more positive ones.

Still in our hands. Don't fuck it up boys.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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The only good thing about today is that it has taken some of the pressure off me.

In late November, when we were flying high, I started worrying that we would collapse in the same way that we did in 2015/16 under Mowbray. As our performances dipped, I became increasingly stressed.

The stress has been lifted today because I’m now 99% sure that we won’t be promoted, so there is no point in worrying. If by some miracle we do go up, it will just be an unexpected bonus.

I’ll start worrying again next season because I don’t think it impossible that we could be struggling near the bottom of the Championship.

Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

Sad Happy Tears GIF by Debby Ryan
 

David O'Day

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Well. 3rd away game of the season and what a game to choose.

Negatives: Probably been covered Ad Nasuem

Positives: Despite the small spaces (yay me), I actually liked Loftus Rd. Proper old school ground. Got home to see the kids before bed.

Next three are must wins. If we get one or two more in to shake things up and do that, then we're still in pole position.

Something needs to change though. Today was dire. And I'm normally one of the more positive ones.

Still in our hands. Don't fuck it up boys.
i like Loftus Road but it was a bit hairy on the left had side, a steward forcing people into rows that were already full
 

SIR ERNIE

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First visit to Loftus Road, great old atmospheric stadium if you like that sort of thing but very cramped where we were and give me a modern stadium any day thanks
We created nothing today and we're a shadow of the dynamic team that created multiple chances a few months ago.
Negatives all round but my two key take outs are that Eccles has to be a regular starter and time is up for Simms. Haji for all his faults to start every game.
Still in our hands with 9 home and 7 away games left.
 

southern_comfort

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I don’t think it does either Wright or Simm’s any good being switched every game, and every opposing manager knows it’s coming
It’s time to pick one and stick with it and whichever one is chosen give more time and training with them build the confidence.
For me Wright has the more potential of the two I find Simms football thinking is 30 seconds behind everyone else he never anticipates the flow of play Wright is better at this.

It’s been glaringly obvious for a while that defensively we are spent Thomas and Kitchen together are not working.
Time to be bold and change it around there is still time.
 

MAFF

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The defence is shite but we're also not creating anything. Remember how shit their keeper was in the home game back in August? Didn't even test him yesterday. Absolute disgrace.
 

Skyblueweeman

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One other thing from yesterday. I was next to a fella, probably mid/late 50s with his wife and daughter i assume. He was standing next to me and when a couple of QPR fans were goading us from below, he tried to spit on one of them.

Not cool, if he's on here and read this. Take the goading like a man and don't try and spit on someone. Disgusting. Thankfully his aim was on par with 95% of our passing yesterday.
 

Torquay Sky Blue

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One other thing from yesterday. I was next to a fella, probably mid/late 50s with his wife and daughter i assume. He was standing next to me and when a couple of QPR fans were goading us from below, he tried to spit on one of them.

Not cool, if he's on here and read this. Take the goading like a man and don't try and spit on someone. Disgusting. Thankfully his aim was on par with 95% of our passing yesterday.
Unfortunately football does seem to entice the "cry in a minute" types.
 

Ipad Boro

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The false modesty from this Boro guy is growing tedious. He’s no doubt buzzing beneath it all.
False modesty my arse. Like I've already said previously, I'm over the moon with how we're doing. I'd be a complete plantpot not to be, especially when weighed up against how our last decade has gone overall. And I'm certainly not hiding it.

But I've had over 40 years of supporting Boro now and whilst that's long enough to have remembered some truly exhilarating times (mainly from the mid-90s for about a dozen years) I, like most of my contemporaries, have learned that nothing is cut and dried until it's mathematically possible. Middlesbrough FC found many ways to kick you in the nuts when things appear home and dry over the rest of the time, so through experience we've learned the hard way not to get carried away, remain understated with any signs of triumph until it actually occurs, otherwise the more likely kick in the pods will hurt all the harder when it comes, as it often does.

But that goes both ways. When it comes to absolute doom and gloom mongers, of which we have a contingent on our board (prime example, some whopper stating we'd miss out on the top 6 and that appointing Hellberg was a mistake a fortnight ago mid-game just because West Brom had equalised during the match at theirs FFS) equally it's important to not let it consume you as rarely are things THAT much of a lost cause as some think.

Oh and another thing. We take hoodoos VERY SERIOUSLY. For an age in the 90s and 00s we had a chalk and cheese home and away thing with Sunderland. Didn't matter what form either of us were in, the home team would win. Our two Hoodoos now are yourselves and Bristol City and have been for a few years. We've learned through bitter experience that form goes out the window in such games.

Could we win at the CBS? It's possible. And I'm sure pundits, experts, bookies, whichever supposed "football oracle" you wish to consult would give us good odds of doing so, giving the usual arguments of "recent form", "players coming back from injury", blah,blah,blah, you know, all the stuff that usually actually means something in the overwhelming majority of games where normal rules apply.

But we fans know better. We'd give ourselves about a 10% chance of actually winning there, a figure reached by all the experience we have of supporting our club. The Hoodoo MUST be respected, and only a complete idiot, who doesn't value his mental state would do otherwise.

Conversely in our game against Ipswich I'd give us a 50/50 chance of turning them over at their place, obviously with only the relative talent and performances of our respective sides right now as a guide which has it's flaws. They are wobbling right now and at the start of a run of away games. Even if you keep up your hit and miss form of late, you could well extend your lead over them during this period, as could we. Even with a loss at your place.

As I'm not just referring to any chance Boro and Cov have in relation to each other in that game, I'm talking about the other sides in the mix, which you should be far more focussed on than our results. Hull are riding a huge wave right now which is understandable, a side who escaped relegation on GD in May, slammed with a transfer embargo, storming up into the playoffs and getting talked about finally in the autos picture. However they have less squad depth than any side in the top 4 right now though which could be their undoing.

Now if they beat a recently crap Watford at home midweek, there's a half decent chance that at some point during next weekend's fixtures they could take the lead against Bristol City (or Barcelona to us) and actually go top during the match at some point and I can imagine the holy hell and meltdown that will occur on both our boards if they do so.

But I'd say the same as I am right now if that happens, to both our sets of fans. It's a case of holding your nerves. Hull too will get injuries in the remainder of the season, injuries that hurt them more than ours would hurt us. Form is temporary, it always is. And any easier run they have right now, means they have a harder one around the corner. They have their limitations, which is plainer to see. They managed to smash and grab a 1 nil against us during our slump, we on the other hand battered 4 goals past them in the first half in front of their own stunned fans whilst they won every other of the 5 game period around it. They have a defence that is far weaker than yours which means they can be and will be got at.

Aside from us two, a needing to be respected as a contender but IMHO long-term limited Hull (though they could just end up winning the playoffs) and an on paper strong, but pretty travel-sick Ipswich, who else is going to emerge as an autos contender? Wrexham?

So whilst you're right to be concerned about your club's form drop-off of late it's hardly worthy just yet of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
 

Jamesimus

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False modesty my arse. Like I've already said previously, I'm over the moon with how we're doing. I'd be a complete plantpot not to be, especially when weighed up against how our last decade has gone overall. And I'm certainly not hiding it.

But I've had over 40 years of supporting Boro now and whilst that's long enough to have remembered some truly exhilarating times (mainly from the mid-90s for about a dozen years) I, like most of my contemporaries, have learned that nothing is cut and dried until it's mathematically possible. Middlesbrough FC found many ways to kick you in the nuts when things appear home and dry over the rest of the time, so through experience we've learned the hard way not to get carried away, remain understated with any signs of triumph until it actually occurs, otherwise the more likely kick in the pods will hurt all the harder when it comes, as it often does.

But that goes both ways. When it comes to absolute doom and gloom mongers, of which we have a contingent on our board (prime example, some whopper stating we'd miss out on the top 6 and that appointing Hellberg was a mistake a fortnight ago mid-game just because West Brom had equalised during the match at theirs FFS) equally it's important to not let it consume you as rarely are things THAT much of a lost cause as some think.

Oh and another thing. We take hoodoos VERY SERIOUSLY. For an age in the 90s and 00s we had a chalk and cheese home and away thing with Sunderland. Didn't matter what form either of us were in, the home team would win. Our two Hoodoos now are yourselves and Bristol City and have been for a few years. We've learned through bitter experience that form goes out the window in such games.

Could we win at the CBS? It's possible. And I'm sure pundits, experts, bookies, whichever supposed "football oracle" you wish to consult would give us good odds of doing so, giving the usual arguments of "recent form", "players coming back from injury", blah,blah,blah, you know, all the stuff that usually actually means something in the overwhelming majority of games where normal rules apply.

But we fans know better. We'd give ourselves about a 10% chance of actually winning there, a figure reached by all the experience we have of supporting our club. The Hoodoo MUST be respected, and only a complete idiot, who doesn't value his mental state would do otherwise.

Conversely in our game against Ipswich I'd give us a 50/50 chance of turning them over at their place, obviously with only the relative talent and performances of our respective sides right now as a guide which has it's flaws. They are wobbling right now and at the start of a run of away games. Even if you keep up your hit and miss form of late, you could well extend your lead over them during this period, as could we. Even with a loss at your place.

As I'm not just referring to any chance Boro and Cov have in relation to each other in that game, I'm talking about the other sides in the mix, which you should be far more focussed on than our results. Hull are riding a huge wave right now which is understandable, a side who escaped relegation on GD in May, slammed with a transfer embargo, storming up into the playoffs and getting talked about finally in the autos picture. However they have less squad depth than any side in the top 4 right now though which could be their undoing.

Now if they beat a recently crap Watford at home midweek, there's a half decent chance that at some point during next weekend's fixtures they could take the lead against Bristol City (or Barcelona to us) and actually go top during the match at some point and I can imagine the holy hell and meltdown that will occur on both our boards if they do so.

But I'd say the same as I am right now if that happens, to both our sets of fans. It's a case of holding your nerves. Hull too will get injuries in the remainder of the season, injuries that hurt them more than ours would hurt us. Form is temporary, it always is. And any easier run they have right now, means they have a harder one around the corner. They have their limitations, which is plainer to see. They managed to smash and grab a 1 nil against us during our slump, we on the other hand battered 4 goals past them in the first half in front of their own stunned fans whilst they won every other of the 5 game period around it. They have a defence that is far weaker than yours which means they can be and will be got at.

Aside from us two, a needing to be respected as a contender but IMHO long-term limited Hull (though they could just end up winning the playoffs) and an on paper strong, but pretty travel-sick Ipswich, who else is going to emerge as an autos contender? Wrexham?

So whilst you're right to be concerned about your club's form drop-off of late it's hardly worthy just yet of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Bloody hell, okay you’ve converted me, I support Middlesbrough now and that bit on the A19 that’s really smelly I will just learn to deal with.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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Having read these posts match comments, it's embarrassing.

I've supported this club for over 60 years through the bad times and the good times.

Yes it's frustrating with the recent bad results but if you're a true supporter you don't just give up, unless you're a glory hunter, because if that's the case go and support Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea or even Man United 🤮
 

Tommo1993

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Having read these posts match comments, it's embarrassing.

I've supported this club for over 60 years through the bad times and the good times.

Yes it's frustrating with the recent bad results but if you're a true supporter you don't just give up, unless you're a glory hunter, because if that's the case go and support Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea or even Man United 🤮

Duration of support has nothing to do with anything.
 

eyesee

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He was dreadful for their winner , far too weak .

Fact is hes another player that gives us moments rather than consistentcy
i think that's a little harsh.
saks if one of our hardest working players. sure, it doesn't always come off, but it doesn't stop him trying.
i'd play him over esse, tbh. although, i do think esse will just get better and better. i like what i've seen so far.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Not really worth changing anything tactically for the next 2 games, but away from home we need to set up with more behind the ball out of possession. A proper 4-5-1, not this 4-1-3-2 that we do.

Male, 40, FA Level 1 Coaching Badge
Especially if we take the lead. How hard is it to tell the fullbacks to not be virtually stepping on the toes of the wingers and the CB's to not be defending 5 yards into the opposition half?

Everyone drop 5-10 yards and make them play through us, then try and hit them on the break with the wide forwards we've got. When we're actually set defensively we've not been that bad. It's fuck ups while we're high up the pitch that are causing most of our goals against.
 

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