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[Sky Blue Pete]

Nothing ever new
Feels a bit like the administration are acting like Saul and need a damascene experience to turn things round. Luckily many call themselves Christians so let’s hope god is speaking loudly

Bible Gateway passage: Acts 9:1-22 - New International Version

Saul’s Conversion - Meanwhile, Saul was still breathing out murderous threats against the Lord’s disciples. He went to the high priest and asked him for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, so that if he found any there who belonged to the Way, whether men or women, he might take them as...

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[PVA]

Chief brownshirt Greg Bovino saying the deceased 'intended to massacre law enforcement'

Just utter fucking bullshit. Do these cunts not realise we have eyes and can see the videos?

This administration is beyond reprehensible.

 

[PVA]

You have the right to bear arms....but if you are bearing arms when arrested we have the right to murder you.

MAGA really tying themselves in knots trying to justify this one

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Chief brownshirt Greg Bovino saying the deceased 'intended to massacre law enforcement'

Just utter fucking bullshit. Do these cunts not realise we have eyes and can see the videos?

This administration is beyond reprehensible.

Interesting they know him more than his dad
Oh well one less non republican voter in the midterms is probably what they’re thinking
Can’t get my head around Kirsty noems actions and words

How hard is we will look at all the evidence and hold those accountable for their actions

Trump has been given impunity and passed it on to everyone who supports him

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yes this is exactly what I think, and I agree with you. This goes further than just protesting though. It is in every single walk of life. Even a botched traffic stop could be game over for you. It is that volatile there.

I think it is probably less about the right to protest and more to do with every day life. Has Trump made it worse though? Almost certainly yes. Like we said earlier, bodycams need to be a must with these ICE agents with immediate effect.

The only issue with that is that speech and protest are supposed to be protected in that country. What’s going on is the American right doing what it always accused the left of trying to do: political persecution.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

The only issue with that is that speech and protest are supposed to be protected in that country. What’s going on is the American right doing what it always accused the left of trying to do: political persecution.

Again, I don't disagree. The whole thing is a fucking mess. I can only see it is escalating at this point as well.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Again, I don't disagree. The whole thing is a fucking mess. I can only see it is escalating at this point as well.

Now you see why I think what I do of Trump. The buck for this lies with him.

 

[djr8369]

Tim Walz has to deploy his national guard at this point, you can’t continue to allow your own citizens to be murdered by these masked thugs.

I guess issue is it will be treated as escalation and Trump will then deploy military. Probably plays into their hand

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I guess issue is it will be treated as escalation and Trump will then deploy military. Probably plays into their hand

So what at this point. Being on the right side of history matters more.

 

[Sick Boy]

Again, I don't disagree. The whole thing is a fucking mess. I can only see it is escalating at this point as well.

Escalation is exactly what the administration wants, IMO.

 

[Grendel]

“The sickening lies told about our son by the administration are reprehensible and disgusting. Alex is clearly not holding a gun when attacked by Trump’s murdering and cowardly ICE thugs. He has his phone in his right hand and his empty left hand is raised above his head while trying to protect the woman ICE just pushed down all while being pepper sprayed,” the family statement said. “Please get the truth out about our son. He was a good man.”

You seem to have recovered from dyslexia “Larry”

 

[LarryGrayson]

You seem to have recovered from dyslexia “Larry”

copy and paste you shud try it mate it ant hard

 

[djr8369]

So what at this point. Being on the right side of history matters more.

Fair

 

[LarryGrayson]

You seem to have recovered from dyslexia “Larry”

that the most important thing is it eh the thing most needed to pull up in all this i see it right now right

 

[Grendel]

copy and paste you shud try it mate it ant hard

 

[chiefdave]

Do these cunts not realise we have eyes and can see the videos?

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I guess issue is it will be treated as escalation and Trump will then deploy military. Probably plays into their hand

Not sure that’s a problem now
They have to be beaten

 

[Sick Boy]

People Are Comparing This Trump Quote to George Orwell

"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening"

time.com

 

[djr8369]

People Are Comparing This Trump Quote to George Orwell

"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening"

time.com

Maybe this is why the right has spent years saying anything they didn’t like about the left is “literally 1984”

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I have a friend who is saying Starmer is worse imprisoning those who incited racial hatred on social media
Is he right?

 

[fatso]

What you appear to be saying is that protest now comes with the risk of being killed by the government. If that is the case, there isn’t actually a right to protest anymore.

Who takes a gun to a peaceful protest?

(Just for clarity, Im not defending the shooting which appears to be a gross over reaction)

I know ice have an incredibly difficult job to do, but there appears to be a lack of training and/or screening of some of their officers.

 

[LarryGrayson]

Who takes a gun to a peaceful protest?

43 per cent of americans

 

[Ccfcisparks]

43 per cent of americans

Well 43% of households own a gun, the actual figure for those carrying is around 16million Americans

 

[fatso]

43 per cent of americans

Maybe that's the problem?

In the uk we'd take a mobile phone and our house keys!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Who takes a gun to a peaceful protest?

(Just for clarity, Im not defending the shooting which appears to be a gross over reaction)

I know ice have an incredibly difficult job to do, but there appears to be a lack of training and/or screening of some of their officers.

Concealed carry is legal in that part of the world.

 

[LarryGrayson]

Maybe that's the problem?

the problem is the aggressive state sponsired murderers in this case

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

43 per cent of americans

Many carry their gun with them always

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Maybe that's the problem?

In the uk we'd take a mobile phone and our house keys!

It’s not the problem here
It is a problem of course
Not long before people take their guns and use them when situations like this happen

 

[fatso]

Concealed carry is legal in that part of the world.

Crazy, they havnt moved on from the days of the wild west!

 

[PVA]

He made no attempt to grab his weapon.

The notion that he intended to 'massacre law enforcement' is clearly utter bollocks as is the notion that the officer fired defensive shots.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Crazy, they havnt moved on from the days of the wild west!

You could arguably say he brought one to protect himself from those goons, but we’ll never know now.

 

[chiefdave]

Who takes a gun to a peaceful protest?

It's a county that fiercely defends the right to arms and the right to carry those arms in public.

You can't have that as a core principle of the country and then excuse shooting innocent people with 'he had a gun'.

As has already been pointed out there's a big crossover between people who not just defended Rittenhouse but made him a figurehead and those now excusing the killing as a result of carrying a gun.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Many carry their gun with them always

Leaving the house checklist - Keys, wallet, phone, gun

 

[chiefdave]

He made no attempt to grab his weapon.

The notion that he intended to 'massacre law enforcement' is clearly utter bollocks as is the notion that the officer fired defensive shots.

I normally try and avoid these things but with the wildly differing claims being made I've watched multiple videos of this incident, including ones that start before Pretti had any interactions with ICE. I have seen nothing that could even remotely begin to justify the actions of ICE.

The witness statements released by the authorities appear to confirm the same. Worrying some witnesses have stated they are scared to go home as ICE are detaining witnesses, something they have no grounds to do. When you've got the local sheriff suggesting they will be asking the National Guard to come in to protect innocent people from ICE there's an enormous problem.

Have to add anyone trying to justify this with 'it's America' or something similar has lost the plot. That's not in any way a valid argument. The police, who are highly trained, should not be shooting innocent people, they should only shoot when in fear of their own lives or if there is a danger to others. ICE, who in some cases only have a few weeks training, certainly should not. You certainly shouldn't have those in power openly stating that ICE are immune from prosecution for their actions as we saw a couple of weeks ago.

Let's not forget that pre-Trump ICE was largely an administrative department. Identifying people in the country illegally and taking the appropriate action. Its only under Trump that we've seen a recruitment campaign offering a large signing up bonus to anyone who wants to join with adverts that are barely a step away from 'do you want to shoot illegals'.

And if you look at the number of people in the country illegally being removed the numbers have plummeted since Trump has gone down this route.

 

[torchomatic]

I normally try and avoid these things but with the wildly differing claims being made I've watched multiple videos of this incident, including ones that start before Pretti had any interactions with ICE. I have seen nothing that could even remotely begin to justify the actions of ICE.

The witness statements released by the authorities appear to confirm the same. Worrying some witnesses have stated they are scared to go home as ICE are detaining witnesses, something they have no grounds to do. When you've got the local sheriff suggesting they will be asking the National Guard to come in to protect innocent people from ICE there's an enormous problem.

Have to add anyone trying to justify this with 'it's America' or something similar has lost the plot. That's not in any way a valid argument. The police, who are highly trained, should not be shooting innocent people, they should only shoot when in fear of their own lives or if there is a danger to others. ICE, who in some cases only have a few weeks training, certainly should not. You certainly shouldn't have those in power openly stating that ICE are immune from prosecution for their actions as we saw a couple of weeks ago.

Let's not forget that pre-Trump ICE was largely an administrative department. Identifying people in the country illegally and taking the appropriate action. Its only under Trump that we've seen a recruitment campaign offering a large signing up bonus to anyone who wants to join with adverts that are barely a step away from 'do you want to shoot illegals'.

And if you look at the number of people in the country illegally being removed the numbers have plummeted since Trump has gone down this route.

A lot of evidence too that pardoned J6ers have signed up.