25/26 January Transfer Window (98 Viewers)

shmmeee

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To an extent. Wilson? Maddison? Gyokeres? Hamer? But that’s my point really. Retention takes as much cash as acquisition.

Wilson and Maddison left before Robins. The others were sold when we wanted to rebuild the entire squad.
 

Cally Fedora

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So what’s your point? I’m saying backing managers can include retaining your best players as well as buying them. I don’t care if it’s Don Mackay, Russell Slade, Robins or Lampard. Lampard is the current manager and he is being backed.
 

SkyBluePower

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History shows it’s all about how players perform in the last 12 matches …. Everyone forgets the first half and gets focused on that period.

If Wright scored 15 goals in the remainder of the season he would win player of the season I have no doubt ….

I’ve been filling in the wallchart from the preseason programme.
Below are the number of times each player has won man of the match.
Clearly shows the value of Rushworth recently and that EMC our most consistent outfield player
(Raphael won for Luton in the cup which seems a very long time ago)
Torp, MVE and Rudoni only one each for marquee players and Grimes not at all which seems mad.

Emc - 4
Wright -2
Rudoni-1
Torp-1
Rushworth- 5
Da silva - 2
MVE -1
BTA- 2
Simms-3
Saka - 1
Thomas - 1
Kitch - 3
Lati - 1
Rapha - 1


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Deity

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I’ve been filling in the wallchart from the preseason programme.
Below are the number of times each player has won man of the match.
Clearly shows the value of Rushworth recently and that EMC our most consistent outfield player
(Raphael won for Luton in the cup which seems a very long time ago)
Torp, MVE and Rudoni only one each for marquee players and Grimes not at all which seems mad.

Emc - 4
Wright -2
Rudoni-1
Torp-1
Rushworth- 5
Da silva - 2
MVE -1
BTA- 2
Simms-3
Saka - 1
Thomas - 1
Kitch - 3
Lati - 1
Rapha - 1


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Shows how little fans know …. Grimes ?
 

Skyblueabo1111

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Fucking hell mate..emc has been class last 2 games that we won

Are you just one of these people who always thinks the manager has got it wrong? First not wanting wright to start and now this

After 2 back to back wins!
Simms had scored 10 in 12. Wright none in 15.I didn't say Yang should start, did I?
 

SkyBlueDom26

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Some people never learn.

It isn't how much you spend but what you do with your budget. We kept all of our best players who were good enough and added to them. Pre season on here was mental. Teams like Norwich and Southampton were expected to be challenging at the top and many had us mid table.

This window we've strengthened. The other sides already had loans. We only had 1. Esse is a great loan signing and I would love to keep him next season if we get promoted. Again we haven't sold anyone so far we want to keep and would have to replace. This is much better than having replacements that would have to learn the way we play and hope for the best. Esse is a class player that just slotted in. Mini is like a normal signing and will take time. I would be very happy with another loan to improve our squad.
Surprised you aren’t still sucking off the Sunderland forum astute you bellend
 

shmmeee

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So what’s your point? I’m saying backing managers can include retaining your best players as well as buying them. I don’t care if it’s Don Mackay, Russell Slade, Robins or Lampard. Lampard is the current manager and he is being backed.

I think the fact we blew the budget in two reserve players who have hardly played gives the opposite impression tbh. Yes money has been spent but it’s not much compared to what came in and what we brought with it has been a bit of a waste if we’re honest.

In terms of first team players we’ve basically sold Sheaf for £6m a bought Grimes for £3.5m since he arrived. The fact he’s got us where he is reflects well on him not the ownership IMO.
 

Deity

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I think the fact we blew the budget in two reserve players who have hardly played gives the opposite impression tbh. Yes money has been spent but it’s not much compared to what came in and what we brought with it has been a bit of a waste if we’re honest.

In terms of first team players we’ve basically sold Sheaf for £6m a bought Grimes for £3.5m since he arrived. The fact he’s got us where he is reflects well on him not the ownership IMO.

I love it when you post nonsense like this because within a few days it’s normally proved to be moronic
 

CCFC96

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I think the fact we blew the budget in two reserve players who have hardly played gives the opposite impression tbh. Yes money has been spent but it’s not much compared to what came in and what we brought with it has been a bit of a waste if we’re honest.

In terms of first team players we’ve basically sold Sheaf for £6m a bought Grimes for £3.5m since he arrived. The fact he’s got us where he is reflects well on him not the ownership IMO.
Because our starting XI is already an automatic promotion chasing champ side - you'll need to spend likely £7-10m (depending on position) to get any sort of real upgrade. What we did in the summer and so far in Jan is consolidate the squad and improve the quality of the depth. It appears that we're about to make one of those £7-10m signings to strengthen in central midfield. If that happens, for me the squad is basically complete.

People seem to consistently underrate the actual quality of our current side and think whoever our rivals sign are incredible. Mehmeti doesn't start for us, Sarmiento wouldn't either. Esse is a better player than both.
 

covcity4life

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That is bollox.
Did you not say it's a "no brainer" that Simms starts ahead of wright?

Did you not say you "can't believe" that Yang hasn't been on the pitch last 2 games?

That's clearly saying you disagree with the managers decisions

You should just be honest that you personally would do things differently to lampard rather than deny
 

Skyblueabo1111

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Did you not say it's a "no brainer" that Simms starts ahead of wright?

Did you not say you "can't believe" that Yang hasn't been on the pitch last 2 games?

That's clearly saying you disagree with the managers decisions

You should just be honest that you personally would do things differently to lampard rather than deny
Not denying anything. On form Simms should have started ahead of Wright. In fact our run was so poor before that, partly because Wright was fluffing chances. Do I think Yang should have played a part in the last 2 games, yes. You then claim " you are continually criticising the manager".. is just bollox
 

covcity4life

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Not denying anything. On form Simms should have started ahead of Wright. In fact our run was so poor before that, partly because Wright was fluffing chances. Do I think Yang should have played a part in the last 2 games, yes. You then claim " you are continually criticising the manager".. is just bollox
Didn't say criticise to be fair. Said questioning

Nothing wrong with wanting Simms to start btw. But it was obvious that it wasn't a clear cut no brainer decision because we all know what wright is capable of on his day and fact we know lampard thinks he's the best striker at the club that's all.
 

David O'Day

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Not denying anything. On form Simms should have started ahead of Wright. In fact our run was so poor before that, partly because Wright was fluffing chances. Do I think Yang should have played a part in the last 2 games, yes. You then claim " you are continually criticising the manager".. is just bollox
Wright was brilliant against Millwall

Who should Yang have replaced? The person who plays in his best position was brilliant for 90 minutes in both games
 

shmmeee

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Because our starting XI is already an automatic promotion chasing champ side - you'll need to spend likely £7-10m (depending on position) to get any sort of real upgrade. What we did in the summer and so far in Jan is consolidate the squad and improve the quality of the depth. It appears that we're about to make one of those £7-10m signings to strengthen in central midfield. If that happens, for me the squad is basically complete.

People seem to consistently underrate the actual quality of our current side and think whoever our rivals sign are incredible. Mehmeti doesn't start for us, Sarmiento wouldn't either. Esse is a better player than both.

I don’t think they are. I think Lampard has done an excellent job of punching above the weight of his squad.
 

Bad Boy

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Because our starting XI is already an automatic promotion chasing champ side - you'll need to spend likely £7-10m (depending on position) to get any sort of real upgrade. What we did in the summer and so far in Jan is consolidate the squad and improve the quality of the depth. It appears that we're about to make one of those £7-10m signings to strengthen in central midfield. If that happens, for me the squad is basically complete.

People seem to consistently underrate the actual quality of our current side and think whoever our rivals sign are incredible. Mehmeti doesn't start for us, Sarmiento wouldn't either. Esse is a better player than both.
100% agree with this.
 

Nuskyblue

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100% agreed. If we want to play him AM or out wide then I see a fit. If work rate is a problem atm at Sheff U, then he’s just not going to be in that role that Torp is currently in.

We played counter attacking football when Hamer was here and he’s absolutely got the attributes for that passing wise. Can he defend large areas of space in the middle of the park? I’m just not convinced.
He can but only for about 60 minutes before he's cooked, he covered a lot of ground in that playoff season.

I'd prefer a big imposing central midfielder with legs to chase back. All our options seem to be towing caravans ATM!
 

mmttww

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I love it when you post nonsense like this because within a few days it’s normally proved to be moronic

It's not moronic.

We needed depth, but it's not a hot take to suggest KKH was to replace MVE, so he's ended up very underused for someone who cost what he did.

Woolfenden should be pushing Thomas and Kitching for starts for what he cost and he's not. He's behind Latibeaudiere. He hasn't looked great so far.

I don't think either are bad players and I don't see things exactly like he does, but it's not mad to think we'd ideally see more output for an outlay of £6-8m.
 

Terry_dactyl

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Don’t really get the vitriol to o hare

he was a really good player for this club

Kasey Palmer wasn’t and gets cheered when he takes a corner, yes he had moments but not consistently enough
I don’t get it either. I like him a lot and would have him back tomorrow.

I find it kinda funny though.
 

CCFC96

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I don’t think they are. I think Lampard has done an excellent job of punching above the weight of his squad.
Can't believe you can watch us when our best 11 are playing and think the squad isn't good enough and we're punching above our weight. I think it's this general over-rating of the rest of the chasing pack that cause people to have crazy outbursts about us signing players. Ebou Adams, Tanganga, Kyogo etc. all names I've seen people bang on about on here yet none get anywhere near our starting 11s.
 

baldy

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Because our starting XI is already an automatic promotion chasing champ side - you'll need to spend likely £7-10m (depending on position) to get any sort of real upgrade. What we did in the summer and so far in Jan is consolidate the squad and improve the quality of the depth. It appears that we're about to make one of those £7-10m signings to strengthen in central midfield. If that happens, for me the squad is basically complete.

People seem to consistently underrate the actual quality of our current side and think whoever our rivals sign are incredible. Mehmeti doesn't start for us, Sarmiento wouldn't either. Esse is a better player than both.

Is this true about the 7-10M pound signing?
 

SleepyGinger

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Ashley Phillips has turned into a really good centre half, probably never make the grade at spurs, wonder if they would let him go permanently?
 

JSL

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That Azeez fella at Millwall looks a good player. If Millwall werent doing so well he would be worth a go at
 

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