25/26 January Transfer Window (127 Viewers)

Viktor17

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Nope other than we have approached Sheffield United and Hamer a week or so back. Fuck knows where were at with it but id imagine if it was a goer there would have been a lot more noise

And we are still working on getting a CM in few irons in the fire but we cant offer the wages of others
Casually dropping that Hamer info ?! For what its worth - hes not what we need.
 

19Skybluearmy76

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We definitely need a robust energetic tough tackling CM because Grimes has looked tired for a few games now and a solid robust left back because JDS gets targeted because of his size a lot. I'm not slating JDS there because he's been brilliant but good cover is required. Bidwell and Brau just aren't good enough IMO. Lack of a couple of positions is going to cost us I feel.
 

mmttww

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I am deeply fed up with the sheer hypocricy

situations you've imagined in your head mean other people are hypocrites? bit of a stretch, innit.


money flowing into Birmingham (who bailed us out)

think you need to look up 'bail out' because I don't think it means charging a f*ck tonne of rent.


shit loads of money is far more important

all evidence says wages make the most difference so with the SCR rules, revenue is what'll matter.
 

David O'Day

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situations you've imagined in your head mean other people are hypocrites? bit of a stretch, innit.




think you need to look up 'bail out' because I don't think it means charging a f*ck tonne of rent.




all evidence says wages make the most difference so with the SCR rules, revenue is what'll matter.
Isn't it "football" revenue so they are trying to stop creative accounting such as Chelsea selling real estate to other companies with the same owners?
 

Shannerz

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I am deeply fed up with the sheer hypocricy of people complaining about the money flowing into Birmingham (who bailed us out) or Wrexham (delete where applicable) when we all know we would love either of their owners to take us over. Both those owners have considerably deeper pockets than DK and it is patently obvious that shit loads of money is far more important to success than even the best manager.* DK has enabled us to get forward, but if you want regular Prem football you need a moneybags. Please see Ipswich, Nottingham Forest and Sunderland passim

* There has also been some recent search that indicates that the quality of the manager is not a key variable to success - See Liam Manning and Thomas Frank for recent examples
Both of those owners have artificially inflated the market by throwing money at it, and thus denying clubs run on a more sustainable footing the opportunity. Owners pouring unlimited funds into clubs is just financial doping.

The FFP rules are there specifically to stop clubs doing this, though there are massive holes in the regulations.

You say 'we' would welcome either owner; that is a rather homogeneous word to use for such a disparate number of opinions. I would not wish either of these owners, both have made the clubs something that in no way appeals to me, are embarrassing in their different ways, and like BSB, I see any success they achieve as hollow.

I prefer success to be earned, not bought, but each to their own.

If you think I'm a hypocrite for this, then you don't understand what hypocrisy is (hey, I can be patronising too).

Oh, and Birmingham didn't 'bail us out;' they accepted a financial transaction that was beneficial to them.
 

StrettoBoy

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But they play Hamer mostly as a wider attacker, he won't be replacing him.

If you read my post you will see that I said they want someone different. What I read is that Wilder wants a bit more grit in midfield, which does sound to me just what Wilder would want.

I'm saying they want Hamer out to fund an incoming midfielder and you are interpreting that as me saying they want like for like. They don't.
 

LastGarrison

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I guess a lot of their revenue comes from the outside of the football stuff. So their main task will be staying relevant to keep that coming in. How long will foreign audiences remain engaged with it all? That's not a question btw, i don't expect you to know the answer, but that will be the challenge.
The thing is it’s not just ‘Rob and Ryan’ as they also have other investors and particularly the Allyn Family who now own a 15% stake in the club.

Google them and it’s fair to say they have a few quid floating around.
 

bigfatronssba

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I am deeply fed up with the sheer hypocricy of people complaining about the money flowing into Birmingham (who bailed us out) or Wrexham (delete where applicable) when we all know we would love either of their owners to take us over. Both those owners have considerably deeper pockets than DK and it is patently obvious that shit loads of money is far more important to success than even the best manager.* DK has enabled us to get forward, but if you want regular Prem football you need a moneybags. Please see Ipswich, Nottingham Forest and Sunderland passim

* There has also been some recent search that indicates that the quality of the manager is not a key variable to success - See Liam Manning and Thomas Frank for recent examples
Are you comfortable with Leicester breaking the rules then?
 

TomRad85

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The thing is it’s not just ‘Rob and Ryan’ as they also have other investors and particularly the Allyn Family who now own a 15% stake in the club.

Google them and it’s fair to say they have a few quid floating around.
The other investors are irrelevant to what I am saying. Im talking about revenue. They are a small club, they need to remain relevant with foreign audiences which is where they get their most of their money from.
 

Otis

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Nope other than we have approached Sheffield United and Hamer a week or so back. Fuck knows where were at with it but id imagine if it was a goer there would have been a lot more noise

And we are still working on getting a CM in few irons in the fire but we cant offer the wages of others
Do we need to kill all the others then?
 

LastGarrison

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The other investors are irrelevant to what I am saying. Im talking about revenue. They are a small club, they need to remain relevant with foreign audiences which is where they get their most of their money from.
But they will be able to drive this revenue through other means and it’s not just the Hollywood boys propping this up.

I would if their new stand, for instance, will attract a ‘named’ sponsor which will help even out some of their FFP? (Not sure if this is even allowed?).

My point really is that when you bring in billionaires into a business they are not just bringing their wealth, they are bringing their portfolio and contacts with them as well and as we’ve seen with Man City and the lack of action against their charges that unfortunately money talks.
 

TomRad85

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But they will be able to drive this revenue through other means and it’s not just the Hollywood boys propping this up.

I would if their new stand, for instance, will attract a ‘named’ sponsor which will help even out some of their FFP? (Not sure if this is even allowed?).

My point really is that when you bring in billionaires into a business they are not just bringing their wealth, they are bringing their portfolio and contacts with them as well and as we’ve seen with Man City and the lack of action against their charges that unfortunately money talks.
Tbf there are lots of incredibly wealthy people that have completely ballsed things up when it comes to running a football club.
 

19Skybluearmy76

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10 wins out of 18 gets us up, that’s how close we are, go and get hamer if there’s a chance, that pretty much gives us the squad to do it, best front line/midfield in the league already and he’ll make it even better,
I feel the same another quality midfielder and strengthen defence probably LB this should be enough. I don't care what opposition fans think there's no other side with an attacking threat like ours it's ridiculous. Our midfield is definitely up there with the best and with another quality addition like say Hamer or Onyeka it would be. Our obvious weakness is defence but I don't think it's down to personal I think it's down to the tactics and how high the back line sits. Milan and JDS are constantly getting caught out almost in a winger position. It's risk and reward which has served us well and made us the most ruthless attack but I just think a tweak pushing the defence back a bit further and not be so Gung-ho would help us tightening up. Look at Ipswich they score a decent amount of goals but don't concede certainly lately and that's what will win them the title IMO. Watching Boro last night I wasn't overly impressed again and their defence looks suspect so if we tighten up we'll secure automatics.
 

skybluecam

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Nope other than we have approached Sheffield United and Hamer a week or so back. Fuck knows where were at with it but id imagine if it was a goer there would have been a lot more noise

And we are still working on getting a CM in few irons in the fire but we cant offer the wages of others
Fucking hell there’s actually something to the Hamer rumour?

Masturbating GIF
 

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