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[SBT]

Think really you're banking on the mid-terms making him a lame duck president and then someone vaguely competent being elected next time round.

It’s meaningless if recent events have already shown that everything can be torn up on the whims of whoever’s in the White House. Why would you place any long-term confidence in a country where someone like Trump has won two of the last three elections?

 

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[tisza]

Shockingly, our “brilliant” NATO Ally, the United Kingdom, is currently planning to give away the Island of Diego Garcia, the site of a vital U.S. Military Base, to Mauritius, and to do so FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER.

There is no doubt that China and Russia have noticed this act of total weakness. These are International Powers who only recognize STRENGTH, which is why the United States of America, under my leadership, is now, after only one year, respected like never before.

The UK giving away extremely important land is an act of GREAT STUPIDITY, and is another in a very long line of National Security reasons why Greenland has to be acquired.

Denmark and its European Allies have to DO THE RIGHT THING. Thank you for your attention to this matter. PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP.

 

[djr8369]

This is the weird thing about his conduct with allies and why I’m seriously starting to question whether he is losing it mentally. He has rightly seen China as the main threat to the US but his behaviour is potentially driving allies into their arms. He is playing the short game, trying to bully and threaten to get what he wants (to feed his ego). Xi and China continue to play the long game

Agree with this. You can see some of their overall strategy is setting the stage for a power struggle with China but that doesn’t have to be inevitable and the way they’re going about it is going to leave them in a weaker position. I think there’s two issues; stupidity and influence from Russia.

 

[Sick Boy]

This is the weird thing about his conduct with allies and why I’m seriously starting to question whether he is losing it mentally. He has rightly seen China as the main threat to the US but his behaviour is potentially driving allies into their arms. He is playing the short game, trying to bully and threaten to get what he wants (to feed his ego). Xi and China continue to play the long game

...and Russia, of course.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Noticed that Canada has started making strong moves towards China. At the rate he’s going, there’s a real threat that the dollar could lose its status as the world reserve currency which would be huge.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Just saw an interview with Alexander Stubb (Finland president). Liked him. Spoke really well and was confident things would’ve settled down by the end of the week. Trump is impulsive and can shift positions quickly so worth seeing how the week pans out.

 

[chiefdave]

Just saw an interview with Alexander Stubb (Finland president). Liked him. Spoke really well and was confident things would’ve settled down by the end of the week. Trump is impulsive and can shift positions quickly so worth seeing how the week pans out.

Was that his polite way of saying Trump is senile and will have forgotten all about it by the end of the week?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Was that his polite way of saying Trump is senile and will have forgotten all about it by the end of the week?

Just he’s completely unbalanced
He’s such a loose cannon and for that reason is hugely dangerous

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I don't think we should be laughing in the face of the leader of the most valuable military ally we have. Yes, he's all of those things but I would HOPE there are people with level heads working hard behind the scenes to fine some dipolmatic sweetner.

Doesn't work when the person you're dealing with doesn't have a level head and basically acts like the world's biggest spoilt toddler having a tantrum when things don't go their way.

The only potentially workable long term solution is everyone turns around and firmly says "No!" Pandering just makes him worse.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Just saw an interview with Alexander Stubb (Finland president). Liked him. Spoke really well and was confident things would’ve settled down by the end of the week. Trump is impulsive and can shift positions quickly so worth seeing how the week pans out.

But then the week after that he shifts back to how he is now.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

It’s meaningless if recent events have already shown that everything can be torn up on the whims of whoever’s in the White House. Why would you place any long-term confidence in a country where someone like Trump has won two of the last three elections?

Trump is showing what the biggest problem with the post-war/Cold War idea of preventing a lot of countries having things like nuclear weapons and in return the US agrees to protect them with theirs.

All it takes is one President to decide "nah, we're not doing that anymore" or making unfair demands in terms of payment for that protection or wanting land/resources in exchange, and that country is suddenly a viable target for other nations. Or even for America.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Trump is showing what the biggest problem with the post-war/Cold War idea of preventing a lot of countries having things like nuclear weapons and in return the US agrees to protect them with theirs.

All it takes is one President to decide "nah, we're not doing that anymore" or making unfair demands in terms of payment for that protection or wanting land/resources in exchange, and that country is suddenly a viable target for other nations. Or even for America.

Yep
Brave new world thanks to a 79 year old man child being enabled by the evangelical right wing

 

[torchomatic]

I don't normally advocate this but I genuinely think that we are getting close to the time when someone needs to be let through the cordon and see him off ala JFK. He's an arsehole but an arsehole in a very powerful position and its a very dangerous combination for the world as a whole.

I would be more than hapoy with that. However, there would be civil war. It would be a bloodbath.

The Republican party are either drinking the Kool Aid or too weak to stand up to him.

 

[Farmer Jim]

Tried it
He’s inconsistent emotional and has no moral framework whatsoever

He`s also unravelling in real time, the man is certifiable.

At some point someone in the States is going to have to step in and admit he isn`t well and start the ball rolling to remove him.

( I know that`s much much harder done than said )

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

If Joe Biden gave a conference like this the usual suspects would be calling him Sleepy Joe. Barely audible, rambling on various lies about one of his favourite topics.

 

[PVA]

That press conference yesterday was unbelievable.

Not a well man surely.

As BSB says, I'd like to hear what those who mocked Biden's senility made of that, and there's a few in this thread.

 

[Sick Boy]

He’s also been caught falling asleep in meetings and used the “I was resting my eyes” excuse ffs.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

They’ll be like Farage and failed tories waiting for a moment to agree with something he says and fuck their own country or say how awful everything is

 

[tisza]

Frankly an astonishing speech by Carney yesterday at Davos. A wake up call to everyone that whilst Trump remains President the world order is going to change and countries need to start adapting quickly.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

So he can steal 50million barrels of oil from Venezuela to reduce prices in the USA
Wtaf

 

[mmttww]

Frankly an astonishing speech by Carney yesterday at Davos. A wake up call to everyone that whilst Trump remains President the world order is going to change and countries need to start adapting quickly.

think Carney has come out of the Trump 2.0 experiment pretty well compared to how other leaders have handled it, publicly at least.

 

[LarryGrayson]

Frankly an astonishing speech by Carney yesterday at Davos. A wake up call to everyone that whilst Trump remains President the world order is going to change and countries need to start adapting quickly.

never felt this way before but us and europe need to get our own defence better and be abel to stand alone

 

[chiefdave]

Probably reaching the point where the European allies need to start planning swooping in and kidnapping Trump to save the American people.

I mean that's how it works, right?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Overnight in Davos - not all heroes wear capes

Worth reading it all

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-carney-speech-davos-rules-based-order-9.7053350

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

never felt this way before but us and europe need to get our own defence better and be abel to stand alone

Done it before and will now need to do it again

 

[tisza]

think Carney has come out of the Trump 2.0 experiment pretty well compared to how other leaders have handled it, publicly at least.

Canada has the "luxury" of massive natural resources that Europe doesn't have. They also have to strengthen their alliances and defense because if Trump bullies his way into controlling Greenland his narrative will go back to Canada becoming the 51st state.

 

[Otis]

Probably reaching the point where the European allies need to start planning swooping in and kidnapping Trump to save the American people.

I mean that's how it works, right?

 

[tisza]

never felt this way before but us and europe need to get our own defence better and be abel to stand alone

Has to because there has to little confidence that US would honour its NATO obligations if Russia invaded for example the smaller Baltic states.
Europe's problem is gaining consensus on how that defense building should happen. For example already can't agree on how to spend defense fund.

 

[PVA]

So he can steal 50million barrels of oil from Venezuela to reduce prices in the USA
Wtaf

And the money from that sale has been put into an account in Qatar. Away from any accountability or scrutiny for Trump to do as he pleases with.

So essentially Trump has kidnapped a head of state and then stolen £500m from that country. Absolutely fucking mental.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

And the money from that sale has been put into an account in Qatar. Away from any accountability or scrutiny for Trump to do as he pleases with.

So essentially Trump has kidnapped a head of state and then stolen £500m from that country. Absolutely fucking mental.

His sycophants on here don’t even pop along to snigger at his criminal activity these days.

 

[tisza]

His sycophants on here don’t even pop along to snigger at his criminal activity these days.

It's not even subtle the corruption around this administration anymore. The pardoning of massive white collar criminals (who Trump has admitted he doesn't even know who they are) who have paid huge lobbying fees is another example of the monetisation of this administration.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Has to because there has to little confidence that US would honour its NATO obligations if Russia invaded for example the smaller Baltic states.
Europe's problem is gaining consensus on how that defense building should happen. For example already can't agree on how to spend defense fund.

The Ukraine war and Trump have at least given everyone a kick up the arse to refocus attention on defence spending and not rely totally on the U.S.

Not sure all this European army stuff is sensible though. As you say getting consensus is a nightmare even on basic issues and it’s also likely there could be some unsavoury characters elected in Europe in the coming years, what happens then ?

It would obviously be wise to work closely together though especially when it comes to Russia/eastern border

 

[LarryGrayson]

The Ukraine war and Trump have at least given everyone a kick up the arse to refocus attention on defence spending and not rely totally on the U.S.

Not sure all this European army stuff is sensible though. As you say getting consensus is a nightmare even on basic issues and it’s also likely there could be some unsavoury characters elected in Europe in the coming years, what happens then ?

It would obviously be wise to work closely together though especially when it comes to Russia/eastern border

each country spends more, each country stands with the others if needed would do its what nato is supposed to be but trumps recking that so gotta go alone ant we

 

[StrettoBoy]

Overnight in Davos - not all heroes wear capes

Worth reading it all

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-carney-speech-davos-rules-based-order-9.7053350

Very interesting.

Thank you for posting it

 

[AOM]

Can we at least get promoted to the Premier League before World War III starts please