Kitching and Thomas (3 Viewers)

[Mucca Mad Boys]

In fairness, you look at Kitching's defensive stats and they're very middling relative to the division, but on the ball he's having a strong season. Thomas' numbers are worse than Kitching's in both respects. Both are posting ridiculous numbers for their shooting.

It tells me that the overall good defensive numbers come from the collective rather than those two specifically. And I say that as a fan of both players. In fact, the individual defensive stats for the first choice back 4 are all average or worse. What's helping is we have one of the best performing keepers in the league and the best defensive midfielder in the league sitting in front of the defence.

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Of course it’s collective.

Wha metrics are we using exactly and I’m also interested in whether or not those stats are correlated with general league performance. For example, there’s been many games where we’ve had 60% possession and more so haven’t really defended in games.

 

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[Ian1779]

Kitching to me has a similar style to Maguire

When we played Man Utd in the SF he was their best player by a mile.

 

[SwanLane]

When we played Man Utd in the SF he was their best player by a mile.

Agreed. He basically ran the game in the first half from CB

 

[SwanLane]

Kitch does remind me a bit of Maguire. In a positive way. He’s faster but not utterly dominant in the air like Maguire usually is.

 

[Saddlebrains]

Has Lampard said anything about these 2 and Tats being back for Swansea in his press conference? Cant find anything

 

[SBT]

Has Lampard said anything about these 2 and Tats being back for Swansea in his press conference? Cant find anything

I mean, they’ve got the flu and the game is five days away….

 

[Deity]

I mean, they’ve got the flu and the game is five days away….

We don’t know how bad they are but if they really do have the super flu they won’t be playing on Boxing Day.

 

[shmmeee]

I mean, they’ve got the flu and the game is five days away….

Performance will be down for a few weeks though. MvE and Torp are clearly still struggling.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

We don’t know how bad they are but if they really do have the super flu they won’t be playing on Boxing Day.

If they aren’t fit enough to play can we at least dispatch them to Suffolk and South Wales to ‘level the playing field’ as it were?

 

[Viktor17]

Has Lampard said anything about these 2 and Tats being back for Swansea in his press conference? Cant find anything

Depends on severity I guess. We are clearly struggling, even players yesterday struggling still.

suspect the training ground will be empty now until Xmas Eve/day to run through plans.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Performance will be down for a few weeks though. MvE and Torp are clearly still struggling.

I was thinking about this
Is it easier at cb than say wing back??
I think it is but dont know by how much
Like a keeper could play before a cb before a striker before a box to box midfielder you’d think wouldn’t you?

 

[Jamesimus]

MVE and Torp both seem to have come back into the fold very quickly, but as most people noticed MVE in particular was struggling by the end and both left the field coughing.

Big Lats and the Wolf have earned their trust from me now too.

 

[Saddlebrains]

I mean, they’ve got the flu and the game is five days away….

But when did they get it? That clearly makes a difference. If they came down with it say Tuesday afternoon, you'd imagine they would be ok come this Friday, thats a 10 day gap. Torp and Milan both only missed 1 game

 

[TomRad85]

But when did they get it? That clearly makes a difference. If they came down with it say Tuesday afternoon, you'd imagine they would be ok come this Friday, thats a 10 day gap. Torp and Milan both only missed 1 game

Even if they are coming towards the end of it they need to stay the fuck away until the last remnants have gone. It's spread enough as it is.

 

[The Nomad]

But when did they get it? That clearly makes a difference. If they came down with it say Tuesday afternoon, you'd imagine they would be ok come this Friday, thats a 10 day gap. Torp and Milan both only missed 1 game

The issue isn't when they recover from it . The issue is that they will not have trained for over a week at least,so they cannot be expected to be thrown into a match.

 

[Mcbean]

I have had the flu and it’s lasted a week so far and my cough wasn’t that bad but I felt shit - but then I am not a 20 year old footballer

 

[clint van damme]

I have had the flu and it’s lasted a week so far and my cough wasn’t that bad but I felt shit - but then I am not a 20 year old footballer

My mates son in laws has it, he's as fit as a butchers dog and it's absolutely floored him.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

My mates son in laws has it, he's as fit as a butchers dog and it's absolutely floored him.

Our baby son caught it from us at the same time he had his first round of vaccinations. He somehow fought them all off without needing to go into hospital but it was a pretty terrifying period of time once we realised.

 

[fatso]

We don’t know how bad they are but if they really do have the super flu they won’t be playing on Boxing Day.

When did seasonal flu become "super flu"?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

When did seasonal flu become "super flu"?

Have you had this year’s version?

 

[clint van damme]

Our baby son caught it from us at the same time he had his first round of vaccinations. He somehow fought them all off without needing to go into hospital but it was a pretty terrifying period of time once we realised.

Frightening stuff, glad he's OK.

 

[clint van damme]

When did seasonal flu become "super flu"?

It's a new strain and because of that people haven't got as much resistance to it.
Once it's done the rounds this year we should be more equipped to cope next winter.

 

[The Nomad]

It's a new strain and because of that people haven't got as much resistance to it.
Once it's done the rounds this year we should be more equipped to cope next winter.

Just in time for 'mega flu'.

 

[eyesee]

Just in time for 'mega flu'.

binley mega flu?

 

[Cally Fedora]

They are not poor defenders though. Dasilva in particular has improved a lot. You talk utter bollocks to be honest

Tremendous analysis. “They’re not poor defenders”. Well now you’ve said that I’m sold. Any comment on prime Maldini Dasilva’s tackle yesterday??

 

[Balli001]

Tremendous analysis. “They’re not poor defenders”. Well now you’ve said that I’m sold. Any comment on prime Maldini Dasilva’s tackle yesterday??

He made a bad tackle. How does that influence all his previously high quality performances for the rest of the season?

 

[Cally Fedora]

It doesn’t. Just evidences that he has no ability to tackle. Which feeds into the overall debate that he isn’t a good defender. He’s massively improved overall but there are some - mainly Procdoc to be honest - who want us to believe that because we’re doing well he has transformed into a defensive guru.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Tremendous analysis. “They’re not poor defenders”. Well now you’ve said that I’m sold. Any comment on prime Maldini Dasilva’s tackle yesterday??

He made a mistake. His first big one this season.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

It doesn’t. Just evidences that he has no ability to tackle. Which feeds into the overall debate that he isn’t a good defender. He’s massively improved overall but there are some - mainly Procdoc to be honest - who want us to believe that because we’re doing well he has transformed into a defensive guru.

He has more tackles than MVE btw…

 

[mmttww]

He has more tackles than MVE btw…

Yeah, but apart from that thing, though...

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

It doesn’t. Just evidences that he has no ability to tackle. Which feeds into the overall debate that he isn’t a good defender. He’s massively improved overall but there are some - mainly Procdoc to be honest - who want us to believe that because we’re doing well he has transformed into a defensive guru.

What a load of . He went for the ball thinking he could get there first,he didn’t.
Guy beat him to it and he took the man. Happens every week in a game somewhere. Speed the game is played at now,it’s inevitable.
He was late,got sent off,get over it and move on.

 

[chickentikkamasala]

We don’t know how bad they are but if they really do have the super flu they won’t be playing on Boxing Day.

no such thing as ‘Superflu’ it’s a mythical word to exaggerate a strain a flu, the symptoms are no different to any other flu and mortality rates no different either.

Interesting article about it here….

What's really going on with flu this winter?

We've been told we're facing an unprecedented superflu. Is it?

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[torchomatic]

Today's Football League paper.

 

[Cally Fedora]

He has more tackles than MVE btw…

He’s been lucky with quite a few to be honest.

 

[Cally Fedora]

What a load of . He went for the ball thinking he could get there first,he didn’t.
Guy beat him to it and he took the man. Happens every week in a game somewhere. Speed the game is played at now,it’s inevitable.
He was late,got sent off,get over it and move on.

Not me that keeps raising it.