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[CCFCSteve]

That video is good in explaining things. That sort of points to him not being racist in any way there, but then when he talks about "prowling blacks", that is a very racist thing to say.

Would need to see if there is any context there

Yeah, you cant say stuff like that. I tried to find the episode but can’t. Stand alone it sounds horrible and a dangerous generalisation

 

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[SBT]

I guess neither was him saying of course anyone of any skin colour would be qualified and to think otherwise is bigoted ?

I’d find it much easier to believe he held mainstream, conciliatory views if he didn’t spend so much time winking at far more extreme and provocative beliefs in the same breath, often blaming other people for the need to entertain them.

 

[PVA]

Yeah, you cant say stuff like that. I tried to find the episode but can’t. Stand alone it sounds horrible and a dangerous generalisation

It's here:

Charlie Kirk goes on unhinged racist rant: "Prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people -- that’s a fact"

www.mediamatters.org

"Now, were they trying to hijack her, were these Blacks trying to go rob her? Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more."

 

[Otis]

It's here:

Charlie Kirk goes on unhinged racist rant: "Prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people -- that’s a fact"

www.mediamatters.org

"Now, were they trying to hijack her, were these Blacks trying to go rob her? Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more."

He's had an absolute shocker there.

And I also picked up on him saying "600 white women are killed by black men in a year "



How many white women are killed by white men?

Knowing the death and murder rates in America, you know it is going to completely dwarf that figure.

In 2022 the figure for women killed was 2,400. Guessing that's around the yearly average

So if he's saying 600 killed by black people, then that's 1,800 that are not killed by black people.

I also noticed him talking of one black guy that argued with her, but then said maybe it was a group. So that's just conjecture.

 

[CCFCSteve]

It's here:

Charlie Kirk goes on unhinged racist rant: "Prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people -- that’s a fact"

www.mediamatters.org

"Now, were they trying to hijack her, were these Blacks trying to go rob her? Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more."

Yeah, you can’t be saying that unless youve got facts and numbers to back it up. Sweeping generalisation and doesn’t do anything to remove tension from the whole race debate

Interesting story though which if true again highlights context issues with people on X etc

 

[Otis]

Yeah, you can’t be saying that unless youve got facts and numbers to back it up. Sweeping generalisation and doesn’t do anything to remove tension from the whole race debate

Interesting story though which if true again highlights context issues with people on X etc

Too much instant reaction/outrage (we saw that with the Southport killing, when it was said the killer had just come over here on a boat) these days

And then people don't look for context.

Have to confess, I have done so myself.

I have always been proud of myself in always taking time to check the facts, but it's very high tension times now and we are bombarded with information and I think the whole ethos behind it all is to get an instant reaction and people all riled up.

I have fallen for that myself

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Too much instant reaction/outrage (we saw that with the Southport killing, when it was said the killer had just come over here on a boat) these days

And then people don't look for context.

Have to confess, I have done so myself.

I have always been proud of myself in always taking time to check the facts, but it's very high tension times now and we are bombarded with information and I think the whole ethos behind it all is to get an instant reaction and people all riled up.

I have fallen for that myself

You’re human, we all are

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

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I totally agree. The answer to hate is not hate.

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Just that there are some pretty hateful things said in there.

Sorry Otis, you are showing quite a bit of ignorance on this.

Stephen King was practically hounded off twitter in the last couple of weeks for point one alone, which was completely incorrect. You could pick apart a lot of the rest as well and it largely comes down to someone who has a grudge on him trying to slander what he has said as if that somehow means his shooting was for a credible reason. I don't know how anyone can make well-rounded views based off such misleading information.

It's here:

Charlie Kirk goes on unhinged racist rant: "Prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people -- that’s a fact"

www.mediamatters.org

"Now, were they trying to hijack her, were these Blacks trying to go rob her? Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more."

Again, you are far too naïve to be posting on these issues as well. You also clearly haven't even watched the video or know what the story is about. It was another racism hoax story trying to whip people up. Black on white crime (as well as black on black crime, but separate point) is a significantly higher issue in the USA than anything else when it comes to interracial crime. There was a huge story literally in the last week or two, which I assume you also missed. As I posted previously: A good report on these crimes can be found through The Bureau of Justice Statistics. Remember to take the population percentages into account as well. It makes for some pretty damning reading.

Table 14 here is useful: https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv18.pdf

 

[PVA]

Again, you are far too naïve to be posting on these issues as well. You also clearly haven't even watched the video or know what the story is about. It was another racism hoax story trying to whip people up.

I have watched it. The hoax part is a separate issue, his 'prowling blacks' comment is there for all to hear.

 

[SBT]

Black on white crime (as well as black on black crime, but separate point) is a significantly higher issue in the USA than anything else when it comes to interracial crime. There was a huge story literally in the last week or two, which I assume you also missed. As I posted previously: A good report on these crimes can be found through The Bureau of Justice Statistics. Remember to take the population percentages into account as well. It makes for some pretty damning reading.

What’s the virtue, in your opinion, of framing crime stats through the lens of race-on-race? And if the conclusions from a report like that are damning, then what’s your policy prescription?

 

[Otis]

Sorry Otis, you are showing quite a bit of ignorance on this.

Stephen King was practically hounded off twitter in the last couple of weeks for point one alone, which was completely incorrect. You could pick apart a lot of the rest as well and it largely comes down to someone who has a grudge on him trying to slander what he has said as if that somehow means his shooting was for a credible reason. I don't know how anyone can make well-rounded views based off such misleading information.




Again, you are far too naïve to be posting on these issues as well. You also clearly haven't even watched the video or know what the story is about. It was another racism hoax story trying to whip people up. Black on white crime (as well as black on black crime, but separate point) is a significantly higher issue in the USA than anything else when it comes to interracial crime. There was a huge story literally in the last week or two, which I assume you also missed. As I posted previously: A good report on these crimes can be found through The Bureau of Justice Statistics. Remember to take the population percentages into account as well. It makes for some pretty damning reading.

Table 14 here is useful: https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv18.pdf

I am talking about his language.