Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (21 Viewers)

David O'Day

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To be that accurate at 2-300 metres requires a fair bit of training tbh
reports say it's 150 yards which is about 140m

You can practice that at a range which it seems there are a lot of around that area.
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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Sure but he missed , this shot was so unbelievably accurate its hard not to see how it wasn't somebody trained highly with firearms

He missed because Trump turned his head at the very last second.

The shooter was clearly someone with experience in handling firearms, but that doesn't make him a trained assassin. That's speculative nonsense.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Most of both sides want to keep the NHS.

Many on both sides in America still want the guns too.
The difference is there is a huge pro gun lobby that buys out enough politicians to prevent even widely popular gun reform, like a universal background check.

There is no pro NHS lobby, people just really like a health service that is free at the point of use. Guess that Aneurin Bevan knew what he was doing.
 

Briles

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The cancer in our society is the incessant need to have everyone agree with you. Reasoned debate turns to violence/mud slinging so quickly. I've decided just to hate everyone equally now. No special concessions.
 

Tommo1993

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We often toy around with the idea of moving our lives over there in our latter years. I don’t think we’d have the stomach to settle with such massive cultural differences between us and them.
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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Its all speculation , as is what you are saying 😂

Multiple sources have confirmed that if Trump didn't turn his head the outcome of the shooting would've been much more severe. The shooter had zero military background or formal training. That is a fact.

With enough practice you can quite comfortably make those shots. That isn't really speculation, having shot guns in the past.
 

Evo1883

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There are gun ranges of up to 1000 yards around that area and likely other places as well.

It's easy enough to practice these days.

Sure , as somebody who has spent countless hours on firing ranges in the UK firing at 1, 2 and 300 metres i believe this person is trained with firearms , nobody can rule out a professional job either

Just an opinion
 

David O'Day

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Sure , as somebody who has spent countless hours on firing ranges in the UK firing at 1, 2 and 300 metres i believe this person is trained with firearms , nobody can rule out a professional job either

Just an opinion
cool, but it is perfectly possible and reasonable that someone with no training can practice at the ample training facilities that are open to the public can practice

just an opinion
 

Otis

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I wouldn't necessarily say it needs to be a pro or specialist trained. I've shot guns on my travels to other countries and you get fairly accurate fairly quickly. A few afternoons at the range would make that shot.
That's very interesting

And where were you last night?
 

Evo1883

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cool, but it is perfectly possible and reasonable that someone with no training can practice at the ample training facilities that are open to the public can practice

just an opinion

If you practice enough you become trained ?

Point is the person who has shot Charlie kirk hasn't just picked up a rifle and shot at him .
 

Evo1883

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Let us wait to see the facts before we go with the Fox news talking head who's evidence it was a professional hit is it was planned and the shooter planned an escape route.

fox news head = ex FBI special agent

Might not be a pro hit , but it cant be ruled out on SBT
 

Tommo1993

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"Seems a professional hit job to me" was your words to be fair

Did he get shot in the neck? Would a professional hit him in the neck and not the head from 130m? Genuine questiom

Above the shoulders and 99/100 times you’ve got a kill anyway. Rules out nothing tbf.
 

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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I said it couldn't be ruled out
When you say professional hit do you mean someone has paid for it to be done? My first thought is for this to have emotionally driven (didn't like him/his politics) rather than a Day of the Jackal style paid hit but that's clearly speculation on my part.

The fact it was done with 1 shot and he's escaped does suggest a level of skill and planning though for sure.
 

David O'Day

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fox news head = ex FBI special agent
yep and his evidence is still the shooter planned it and planned an escape route which a non professional hit man can also do

it doesn't matter what his background is, he is one fox and friends so to keep being asked on he needs to say stuff like this

let us see what they evidence the current FBI uncover and what that shows us first
 

SkyBlueDom26

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What I don’t get is how them rooftops weren’t scanned for this sort of thing, especially after trump. Seen multiple videos of the killer on the roof and nobody doing anything
 

David O'Day

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When you say professional hit do you mean someone has paid for it to be done? My first thought is for this to have emotionally driven (didn't like him/his politics) rather than a Day of the Jackal style paid hit but that's clearly speculation on my part.

The fact it was done with 1 shot and he's escaped does suggest a level of skill and planning though for sure.
If he was shot in the neck that troubles me, would a professional at what is seemingly not a large distance not hit him in the head? Or take a 2nd shot?
 

PVA

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Surely the timing as well? He was asked a question about gun stuff, answered. Bang.

Yeah I mentioned that last night. Don't know how far away he was and what the speaker setup was so whether he could hear him or not, but it was either a massive coincidence or timed specifically.
 

Ccfcisparks

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I’ve seen a video which looks like the bullet actually hits his bulletproof vest before rebounding up into his neck as it was slow mo
Sick thing is, if he wasn't wearing the vest he would probably have had a better chance at surviving with a bullet through the chest, if it wasnt his heart.
 

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