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fernandopartridge

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Its tearing the West apart and no doubt actively ‘encouraged’ by Russia, China, Iran etc

People are just hearing and seeing what they think or believe all the time now, so can’t seem to empathise with other peoples views at all. Throw in the numerous divisions intentionally being sown by both sides over the past 10 years or so, whether that’s race, gender, class etc etc and a total lack of critical thinking (people just accept what they’re seeing/being told) and it’s no surprise we’re becoming more and more polarised

I’m not immune to this by the way and anyone who thinks they are is deluded.

*drafted this earlier but didn’t press send. Just seen the news about Charlie Kirk shooting, whatever his political views, horrific.
The design of the algorithms on twitter literally creates an echo chamber, I think social media has whether deliberate or not amplified lots of dangerous lies. It's out of control now.
 

pusbccfc

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A man happy to sit and debate in the open has been publicly executed. I honestly thought it was about to go off over the Ukrainian girl, I think this might give it another almighty shove.

I'll never get over seeing that video of that stabbing. As horrifying as anything I've ever seen. Sickening and heartbreaking.
 

chiefdave

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The algorithm sends people down rabbit holes to reaffirm their views and dismiss alternatives.
I think it's worse than that. Given the absolute state twitter is I have my account very locked down to following only music, football & hockey accounts.

Yet on a daily basis I have stuff coming up on my feed that can't be considered anything other than far right. Any post I click on I have to scroll through numerous inflammatory comments from blue tick accounts before I get to anything useful.

We all know people are absorbing this stuff and reciting it as fact, we see it on here on a daily basis. Something has been posted on social media and therefore must be true. Yet it often takes only a matter of seconds on google to find something is completely false.
 

Marty

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A man happy to sit and debate in the open has been publicly executed. I honestly thought it was about to go off over the Ukrainian girl, I think this might give it another almighty shove.

Haven't we got that march in London this weekend too, if anything were to happen during that, I can imagine things would escalate here too.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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he did not say that. what an odd conclusion to jump to
2+2=77558

Very smart, well done.
It was uncalled for. I’ll delete the post.

There’s plenty of so-called ‘liberals’ who have said that because people have bad opinions, they’re bad people and deserve what’s coming to them. Guests on CNN and MSNBC peddling this, more or less.

In a sickly ironic, poetic way… Charlie Kirk was shot just as he was debating someone on the ‘rampant’ violence of the political left in the USA.

RIP Charlie Kirk.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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I think it's worse than that. Given the absolute state twitter is I have my account very locked down to following only music, football & hockey accounts.

Yet on a daily basis I have stuff coming up on my feed that can't be considered anything other than far right. Any post I click on I have to scroll through numerous inflammatory comments from blue tick accounts before I get to anything useful.

We all know people are absorbing this stuff and reciting it as fact, we see it on here on a daily basis. Something has been posted on social media and therefore must be true. Yet it often takes only a matter of seconds on google to find something is completely false.
Had to close mine down
 

Ccfcisparks

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It was uncalled for. I’ll delete the post.

There’s plenty of so-called ‘liberals’ who have said that because people have bad opinions, they’re bad people and deserve what’s coming to them. Guests on CNN and MSNBC peddling this, more or less.

In a sickly ironic, poetic way… Charlie Kirk was shot just as he was debating someone on the ‘rampant’ violence of the political left in the USA.

RIP Charlie Kirk.
it was a sick poetic way that he died after advocating for a few gun deaths being a willing sacrifice to maintain the second amendment
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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It was uncalled for. I’ll delete the post.

There’s plenty of so-called ‘liberals’ who have said that because people have bad opinions, they’re bad people and deserve what’s coming to them. Guests on CNN and MSNBC peddling this, more or less.

In a sickly ironic, poetic way… Charlie Kirk was shot just as he was debating someone on the ‘rampant’ violence of the political left in the USA.

RIP Charlie Kirk.
To be clear MMB, mass gun violence has overwhelmingly been the preserve of the far right in the US. That's not really up for debate.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Chilling that Charlie Kirk posted this in April.



Right on cue, so he says bad things so deserves to be shot… What a disgusting opinion to have:



This is chilling indeed.

I mean, this is a public speaker, not even a politician. Where does it end? The news is absolutely tragic that he has passed away. I've listened to a few of his debates and been really impressed. It seems that they couldn't win against him, so they shot him.

On a side note, the gunshot sounded very heavy. I wondered if it was a longer range rifle. The fact they haven't caught the person could suggest it was someone a bit further away, but who knows. I expect they'll be a huge man hunt now.

I also expect things are going to get very, very ugly imminently.
 

PVA

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"It was while he was being asked about gun violence that he was shot"

Bloody hell. Wonder if the shooter could hear that (no idea how far away he was, obviously it would have been broadcast over loads of speakers), or if that was by pure chance.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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This is chilling indeed.

I mean, this is a public speaker, not even a politician. Where does it end? The news is absolutely tragic that he has passed away. I've listened to a few of his debates and been really impressed. It seems that they couldn't win against him, so they shot him.

On a side note, the gunshot sounded very heavy. I wondered if it was a longer range rifle. The fact they haven't caught the person could suggest it was someone a bit further away, but who knows. I expect they'll be a huge man hunt now.

I also expect things are going to get very, very ugly imminently.
You’re bang on media politicians everyone has the responsibility to ratchet things down after this
Who will be brave enough
 

David O'Day

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I think it's worse than that. Given the absolute state twitter is I have my account very locked down to following only music, football & hockey accounts.

Yet on a daily basis I have stuff coming up on my feed that can't be considered anything other than far right. Any post I click on I have to scroll through numerous inflammatory comments from blue tick accounts before I get to anything useful.

We all know people are absorbing this stuff and reciting it as fact, we see it on here on a daily basis. Something has been posted on social media and therefore must be true. Yet it often takes only a matter of seconds on google to find something is completely false.
Mine is just football and music and still the "for you section" feeds me some really extreme views.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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This is chilling indeed.

I mean, this is a public speaker, not even a politician. Where does it end? The news is absolutely tragic that he has passed away. I've listened to a few of his debates and been really impressed. It seems that they couldn't win against him, so they shot him.

On a side note, the gunshot sounded very heavy. I wondered if it was a longer range rifle. The fact they haven't caught the person could suggest it was someone a bit further away, but who knows. I expect they'll be a huge man hunt now.

I also expect things are going to get very, very ugly imminently.
The shot was taken from 200 yards apparently. I would expect that the shooter will be well on his way by now.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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To be clear MMB, mass gun violence has overwhelmingly been the preserve of the far right in the US. That's not really up for debate.
Does that mean it’s not on the up with liberals?

Look at the polling Kirk shared in April. The amount of self-described ‘liberals’ far outweighs the people who self-describe themselves as ‘far right’.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Does that mean it’s not on the up with liberals?

Look at the polling Kirk shared in April. The amount of self-described ‘liberals’ far outweighs the people who self-describe themselves as ‘far right’.
I don't see any evidence from this year that suggests it's even close. I have noticed an uptick in public disorder in Democratic parts of the country who don't want Trump's fascist interference in their states/towns/cities. When masked goons are going around these areas just randomly grabbing people off the street, people understandably won't tolerate it.

There was no armed insurrection to attempt to prevent Trump taking power this year either, unlike what Trump himself incited after he lost in 2020. It also remains to be seen what the motive of Kirk's murderer was which we can't know until he's been caught.
 

David O'Day

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Does that mean it’s not on the up with liberals?

Look at the polling Kirk shared in April. The amount of self-described ‘liberals’ far outweighs the people who self-describe themselves as ‘far right’.
What is the data behind it? The methodology and sample sizes?

It doesn't matter who shoots who, it's on both sides to tone down the rhetoric.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I think it's worse than that. Given the absolute state twitter is I have my account very locked down to following only music, football & hockey accounts.

Yet on a daily basis I have stuff coming up on my feed that can't be considered anything other than far right. Any post I click on I have to scroll through numerous inflammatory comments from blue tick accounts before I get to anything useful.

We all know people are absorbing this stuff and reciting it as fact, we see it on here on a daily basis. Something has been posted on social media and therefore must be true. Yet it often takes only a matter of seconds on google to find something is completely false.
Nobody would miss Twitter if it were taken down tomorrow.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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I keep well clear of all that sort of stuff.

Nightmare inducing and those sorts of things can just stay with you forever
My gf told me the video was bad and made the mistake of asking for the link. The guy is just sitting there, talking then ‘pop’ and now he’s dead.

Disturbing, if anyone is curious… do yourself a favour, don’t watch it.
 

ajsccfc

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Seeing that the old chap in the videos was released and they're still looking for the shooter as it was from distance? There must be some training behind whoever did it
 

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