procdoc
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You are allowed to praise him for the great stuff he’s done (which I have) whilst simultaneously be annoyed with our transfer business.
Transfer Rumour 25/26 Summer Transfer Window (17 Viewers)
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procdoc
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He won’t do that. He’s only played Wright down the middle. In the game he and Simms started against Luton we switched to 4-4-2 to keep Wright up top
Lamps
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I see silly season hasn't gone away still.
It's very easy to sign squad fillers. It's very easy to sign players for well over their true value. We sold Binks for over his true value and only a squad filler. We sold Sheaf for a very good amount when in reality he was a replacement for Grimes who misses less than half a game a season. Grimes and Sheaf didn't work well together.
We were after players to compete for a place in the 1st team without paying over the odds. We're stronger than at the end of last season but would have been even stronger if targets we were after would have signed.
Some of the comments here are similar to those last season where Hull were signing players and not worrying about the cost. Their demise shows what happens when you use the scattergun approach.
The next transfer window opens 1st January and lasts just over a month. We haven't wasted funds available but have added to them. I hear and agree with people that we could struggle when injuries start but that's the same for every club in the Championship.
It's very easy to sign squad fillers. It's very easy to sign players for well over their true value. We sold Binks for over his true value and only a squad filler. We sold Sheaf for a very good amount when in reality he was a replacement for Grimes who misses less than half a game a season. Grimes and Sheaf didn't work well together.
We were after players to compete for a place in the 1st team without paying over the odds. We're stronger than at the end of last season but would have been even stronger if targets we were after would have signed.
Some of the comments here are similar to those last season where Hull were signing players and not worrying about the cost. Their demise shows what happens when you use the scattergun approach.
The next transfer window opens 1st January and lasts just over a month. We haven't wasted funds available but have added to them. I hear and agree with people that we could struggle when injuries start but that's the same for every club in the Championship.
Speedie's Head
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Wrexham boss admits that the move for Sheaf wasn't as sudden as many believed it to be...
"He's someone we've been looking at for a while and like ever, negotiations can drag out."
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"He's someone we've been looking at for a while and like ever, negotiations can drag out."
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Ccfcisparks
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no
nonsense. we had no time to replace him.Wrexham boss admits that the move for Sheaf wasn't as sudden as many believed it to be...
"He's someone we've been looking at for a while and like ever, negotiations can drag out."
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David O'Day
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trolling again are we
it can be both true that they have mentioned him to us for a while and the offer they made which was vastly higher than our valuation of the player came suddenly at the end of the window
Ccfcisparks
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If there had been interest in Sheaf that had been communicated to us ahead of time, it would have made sense to have a contingency plan in case we were to sell him.
The bid came in Saturday morning, if we had a target lined up, 2 days is more than enough to get a deal over the line. Its poor planning nothing else.
Speedie's Head
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It looks pretty likely that Sheaf was sold in the end to fund the Woolfenden deal as it seemed at the time...
David O'Day
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Ok, if you say so. Football isn't FIFA or Football Manager.
I get it, you're life revolves around trolling on a forum to prove your self worth. I hope you find something soon to fill to very obvious gap in your life,
Have a good day and I hope you find a working stream for the game on Saturday,
Ccfcisparks
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David O'Day
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Any actual evidence to back this up? Given we'd bid for CBs long before the Sheaf bid was made that story lacks legs.
If we needed money we would have sold Milan to Wolfsburg.
Ccfcisparks
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quite possibly. it seems odd to sell him and not have anyone lined up
JSL
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It looks suspiciously like we had hawked MVE, Rudoni and Thomas to raise money and eventually had an offer for Sheaf which we accepted based on not getting offers for the others near what we thought they were worth. Big bids for Hughes and Rushworth may have been based on a big sale in my opinion, or that's how it looks to me anyway
ccfc1234
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If someone knocks on my door and offers me above market price for my house, I would not have a specific plan in place for the next house I buy. I might even bank the money and move into rented for 6 months and assess my options.
I suspect the plan was not to sell Sheaf, until the deal became too good to turn down in Frank and Dougs view.
Ccfcisparks
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That cant be true as people on here were telling me that the scouting team would have contingency targets if we sold any of our squad
Cally Fedora
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We had targets lined up. We bid what we thought they were worth. The clubs wanted more. We walked away. Doesn’t mean we don’t have the cash to spend, just means we don’t want to waste it.
covcity4life
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It's crazy how many people assume if we didn't sign anyone it's because we didn't have targets
Lamps
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Several have an agenda and poo poo anything else that doesn't fit in with their agenda without making any valid points.
blunted
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There are a lot of fantasy football fans on here.
These are the facts of our football clubs recruitment:
Every player in our squad is for sale. We put a figure on a sale and I think that is why Sheaf left. Because Wrexham came up with the money and the timescales to pay it. In other words, too good to refuse. It was unfortunate it was so late in the window they met our valuation.
We are some way down the pecking order in the Championship. We are below the parachute clubs and Wrexham and Birmingham who are paying inflated fees and inflated wages. There are clubs like Norwich that have sold players for extremely high fees and have better cashflow.
We have a good system of recruitment that identifies a player and tries to buy them. We are in competition with the aforementioned teams with more money and teams abroad with greater purchasing power. If we miss our first target, we move on to the next and so forth. We only buy what we can afford. We have multiple targets that fit the strict criteria of cost, age, availability, ability and personality.
Some clubs simply would not sell their players at this moment in time.
We have loads of targets but we are at a stage where we need to improve the first 11 and that is now really difficult which is why we are paying £3 to £4 million for players rather than £1 million a few seasons ago. It appears we will push the boat out for a brilliant prospect.
We are losing £7million a year up to this season and our wage structure reflects that. Other clubs offer way higher salaries.
These are the facts of our football clubs recruitment:
Every player in our squad is for sale. We put a figure on a sale and I think that is why Sheaf left. Because Wrexham came up with the money and the timescales to pay it. In other words, too good to refuse. It was unfortunate it was so late in the window they met our valuation.
We are some way down the pecking order in the Championship. We are below the parachute clubs and Wrexham and Birmingham who are paying inflated fees and inflated wages. There are clubs like Norwich that have sold players for extremely high fees and have better cashflow.
We have a good system of recruitment that identifies a player and tries to buy them. We are in competition with the aforementioned teams with more money and teams abroad with greater purchasing power. If we miss our first target, we move on to the next and so forth. We only buy what we can afford. We have multiple targets that fit the strict criteria of cost, age, availability, ability and personality.
Some clubs simply would not sell their players at this moment in time.
We have loads of targets but we are at a stage where we need to improve the first 11 and that is now really difficult which is why we are paying £3 to £4 million for players rather than £1 million a few seasons ago. It appears we will push the boat out for a brilliant prospect.
We are losing £7million a year up to this season and our wage structure reflects that. Other clubs offer way higher salaries.
Sky Blue Harry H
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Long term - no effect. All players leave eventually. You're unlikely to be unsettled mid season, unless you're not playing (unlikely) or we're struggling and in no contention for the top 6. I've said to friends that there's likely to be a big turnover in the summer if we don't go up this season - but we ought to have a serious amount of money to play with as a result of losing the likes of Wright, MVE and Rudoni next summer. The short, medium and longer term future of our club has rarely looked brighter imo.
I don’t think so.
We will have been pretty sure in the last 72hrs of the window that Rudi et al were not leaving and yet still made £10m bids for 2 players.
I think it was probably as simple as not being able to secure our own targets and believing that £6.5m for an injury prone Sheaf entering the final year of his contract was good business. I also think Sheaf wanted to either be a guaranteed starter or he allowed to move on …. He believes that he has the quality to play in the premier league and if you believe that you don’t settle for being a sub in the championship.
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To think we “hawked” Rudoni around this summer is madness and rubbish. He was never going unless someone offered something mad.
few people have said, it’s just far more complex now than singing player A or moving down the list, especially in player pool we are after.
I was little frustrated, but now dust has settled, again would rather us wait and get who we want than waste money. (We need some luck until Jan)
journey is a marathon, not a sprint.
few people have said, it’s just far more complex now than singing player A or moving down the list, especially in player pool we are after.
I was little frustrated, but now dust has settled, again would rather us wait and get who we want than waste money. (We need some luck until Jan)
journey is a marathon, not a sprint.
David O'Day
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The idea we should of just loaned someone to cover Sheaf is strange as well. Most players who are worth loaning are got likely to be allowed to join us to play back up to Grimes and Torp. Is it worth loaning someone just for the sake of it?
JSL
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We all know the problem with out of contract players. Lack of match fitness etc. Yes we took Paterson last season, but he trained with the squad for numerous weeks before they actually took him. Who on the free market is worth that effort until January when we could potentially buy someone? Or that we could afford as most seem to have been on house price weekly wages
procdoc
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Literally no one has an agenda. Everyone wants what’s best for the club. Everyone has an opinion on what they think is best to achieve our ambitions. I thought it was an average window and the squad is paper thin in certain areas. Only time will tell if I am right or I am wrong.
JimmyHillsbeard
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He’s gone on loan to Turkey now (Çaykur Rizespor) so obviously the problem was nothing to do with Palace not being able to replace him (as I pointed out last week they signed both Pino and Uche as wide strikers and they weren’t even contemplating using Rak-Saki in their squad).
Speedie's Head
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I think we rejected the MVE approach from Wolfsburg, which didn't meet our valuation. We then offered him to Wolves apparently (possibly among others, who knows) but they had other targets so we were left to sell Sheaf, who we now know that Wrexham had been interested in for some time. I think we were only buying Hughes, for example, if we'd sold MVE and being unable to move him messed up the window. Of course King isn't going to say that directly but looking at the window as a whole that is my reading of it.
AFCCOVENTRY
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David O'Day
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Speedie's Head
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Wolves snub £15m Milan van Ewijk move despite surprise Coventry City offer
Milan van Ewijk will seemingly not be making the move across the West Midlands this summer despite attempts to make it happen.
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You'll never get evidence, we have to try to put the pieces together.
If we really had £10m spare cash to drop on a centre half or two do you think that we'd be pissing around on the last weekend of the window? We'd have have had a couple of players in in July or else there would have been much more news. There's more out there than Charlie Hughes! The truth is we'd not made a large sale for a while.
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Apologies for the late response man, i've been away. I missed the conversation, went on with what?
Also, wasn't me who said about an older player coming in, not sure who mentioned that, i haven't been keeping up with threads.
I haven't heard anything to be honest.
Agree there with what you said about the stadium being the most important purchase. Looking back over the window, it wasn't really a disappointing one, i think it's clear we were trying.
Losing Sheaf at the last minute was probably a shock to some people, coupled with a tense last day of the window, possibly left people feeling a bit deflated.
It may not have been a position we were looking at filling this summer, but i've got faith in Eccles to fill that gap for now. (I know some people don't rate him)
I'd love to see us aiming to bring in a progressive midfielder in January.
With regards to the winger, it seems from an outside point of view that we waited all summer on Fulham, if that's the case, it's very naive.
We've looked at Rak-Sakyi in the past so i'm not surprised we tried last minute for him, seemed like too little time to get anything done obviously. A shame really as i think thats one area where we were desperate for some real depth.
Can only hope they are already putting plans in place for January.
It's tough, can't complain with what we are trying to do, but sometimes i think it's not unfair to wonder if we need another body in and around the transfer side of things, i've heard some people on match day's questioning whether Austin is out of his depth. I've no idea what his true role is, but maybe if we are looking at shaping up to Premier league pushing sides, then we may need to see an addition of a Director with higher experience in that department in the near future.
Hullinho87
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99.9% of people that had an issue with our window would take nearly all of Sheff U’s last 3 windows signings over our’s.
That’s not always how the Championship work’s. We are in infinitely better shape than Sheff U, whether we have more “inferior” individual players or not.
It’s not inevitable, as many will make you believe, that signing 6 top top players in a summer window will get you over the line, again not how the Championship works.
Time to draw a line on the transfer window now maybe? Move on with what we do have and build a run of form and a connection between fans and the players we do have.
The Championship front runners will nearly always be the teams with the deeper, “better” squads, of course - but there are always 3 or 4 teams who challenge that status quo.
Having 7 or 8 quality starters, a unified fan base with the players and manager, a bit of luck, goals can put you right in the mix - our summer activity success rate opinion or not aside, all of these things in what I list are already there or are within our “control”.
That’s not always how the Championship work’s. We are in infinitely better shape than Sheff U, whether we have more “inferior” individual players or not.
It’s not inevitable, as many will make you believe, that signing 6 top top players in a summer window will get you over the line, again not how the Championship works.
Time to draw a line on the transfer window now maybe? Move on with what we do have and build a run of form and a connection between fans and the players we do have.
The Championship front runners will nearly always be the teams with the deeper, “better” squads, of course - but there are always 3 or 4 teams who challenge that status quo.
Having 7 or 8 quality starters, a unified fan base with the players and manager, a bit of luck, goals can put you right in the mix - our summer activity success rate opinion or not aside, all of these things in what I list are already there or are within our “control”.