Transfer Rumour 25/26 Summer Transfer Window (18 Viewers)

[procdoc]

SERIOUS COPE!!!

It’s honestly pathetic. He was saying before Sheaf was sold that he should be starting ahead of Torp. We then sold Sheaf and didn’t replace him yet the transfer window is now considered outstanding. He doesn’t make any sense. If bling shagged his Mrs he’d probably congratulate him

 

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[Mucca Mad Boys]

I think my personal annoyance with the window, is that we never said no when we couldn’t get a replacement on the last day.

I honestly don’t mind Sheaf going and the amount was decent when you consider where he was but not holding firm until we got a replacement or likewise letting Rapha go when we knew Rak-Sai wasn’t coming seems very naive imo

Upon reflection, I’m not fussed about letting either player leave without bringing in replacements.

Starting with Rapha, it’s apparent that Lampard doesn’t actually trust him to come off the bench to change a game at our level. He’s only been willing to sub him on when we’re winning by a clear margin. If Rapha can cut his teeth in L1 and do well, he’ll be of more use to us next season than being a bit part player.

As for Sheaf, the fee was right and between his injuries of late, his contract situation, Torp’s form and Grimes establishing a leadership role, it makes sense to cash in from a Wrexham side that probably panicked a bit. At his best, he’s a top end Championship CM but hasn’t been at that level since 23/24. 5 CMs for 2 CM spots is too much and it’s an area where the quality is good, Allen is the weakest but his niche is filling in where required. In any case, those 4 will get us to Jan comfortably and where we can reevaluate things.

The big crime this summer was not signing wingers good enough to play.

 

[SBAndy]

Personally I thought it was an outstanding window. I don’t care if King didn’t.

“Outstanding” is an absolutely bonkers take.

 

[Captain Dart]

It’s honestly pathetic. He was saying before Sheaf was sold that he should be starting ahead of Torp. We then sold Sheaf and didn’t replace him yet the transfer window is now considered outstanding. He doesn’t make any sense. If bling shagged his Mrs he’d probably congratulate him

Sheaf featured prominently in the pre season and was looking almost back to his best which leads me to believe the transfer fee offered was an unexpected opportunity that was just too good to turn down.

I think the current situation could be better, we are in my opinion a signing short of adequate squad depth so we have to hope we can get by till January.

 

[procdoc]

Sheaf featured prominently in the pre season and was looking almost back to his best which leads me to believe the transfer fee offered was an unexpected opportunity that was just too good to turn down.

I think the current situation could be better, we are in my opinion a signing short of adequate squad depth so we have to hope we can get by till January.

My concern is the depth on the wing. I find it bonkers that people are happy with having to play Brau on the wing for example if there’s an injury.

 

[Liquid Gold]

It’s idiotic that we decided Rak-Sakyi was the man but only at 11th hour on deadline day.
We had all summer to do that deal and spent it pissing about.

It seems to me we zeroed in on certain players and let ourselves get messed around instead of moving on several acceptable targets. It has left us short.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

My concern is the depth on the wing. I find it bonkers that people are happy with having to play Brau on the wing for example if there’s an injury.

Spent a lot of time in preseason arguing that was the highest priority position… it took to the end of August to prove just how light we are.

The one good thing about signing Wolfenden is that with 4 CBs + Bidwell, 5-3-2 is a viable option if we run out of wingers.

 

[covcity4life]

It’s idiotic that we decided Rak-Sakyi was the man but only at 11th hour on deadline day.
We had all summer to do that deal and spent it pissing about.

It seems to me we zeroed in on certain players and let ourselves get messed around instead of moving on several acceptable targets. It has left us short.

We may have wanted him for weeks for all you know. But palace wanted to bide then time before making a decision

Fans need to stop acting like it's a simply black and white situation all the time. So much information and detail that we are not privvy too.

 

[shmmeee]

Do you think Lampard approved of the sale?

I don’t know. Just saying the line that “we didn’t sell anyone of consequence” isn’t quite true. A £6m player is not something to sniff at in terms of quality of depth. We probably made the best large sale we could though.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I don’t know. Just saying the line that “we didn’t sell anyone of consequence” isn’t quite true. A £6m player is not something to sniff at in terms of quality of depth. We probably made the best large sale we could though.

Depth for whom though? Grimes has missed 3 league games since the 2017/18 season.

In preseason, I raised some promising underlying stats of Torp’s performances last season and he’s performing above that level. The concern here is there isn’t a player who can do what Torp does in our squad. Eccles is something inbetween Torp and Grimes but does neither job as well. With Sheaf, better defensively that both Grimes and Torp but not as good as a playmaker.

Next season, we should be looking at revamping the CM position because we’ll presumably move Allen on and what we do with Eccles depends on what he does this season.

 

[Liquid Gold]

We may have wanted him for weeks for all you know. But palace wanted to bide then time before making a decision

Fans need to stop acting like it's a simply black and white situation all the time. So much information and detail that we are not privvy too.

I'm sorry but you're completely missing the point here.

We may have wanted him weeks before, we may have moved on to him after missing out on Godo, it doesn't really matter.

What matters is we were crying out for attacking reinforcements since May. What has happened is we've let other clubs transfer policies dictate our own. We should have a comprehensive list on every position and profile containing a multitude of players.

You don't put all your eggs in one basket and then move onto the next when we're gazumped, you should be moving on several on that list at the same time until one comes. It's obvious that this didn't happen because we didn't sign anybody for that position in the 4 months that we had.

It's very poor transfer strategy and it's left us short.

 

[higgs]

Maybe andrews is showing in training that he can step in to replace sheaf it looked like he would be going on loan had sheaf not been sold

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[Ccfcisparks]

Maybe andrews is showing in training that he can step in to replace sheaf it looked like he would be going on loan had sheaf not been sold

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We've had a few like that, superstars in training, supershite in matches

 

[David O'Day]

It’s idiotic that we decided Rak-Sakyi was the man but only at 11th hour on deadline day.
We had all summer to do that deal and spent it pissing about.

It seems to me we zeroed in on certain players and let ourselves get messed around instead of moving on several acceptable targets. It has left us short.

That isn't what happened though? From the limited information we have the reason we went for him at the 11th hour is before that it looked like he was on his way to Celtic or Rangers and it was only when this broke down we thought we may have had a chance at him. So while we may have wanted him all summer it was only then we had a chance of signing him.

 

[higgs]

We've had a few like that, superstars in training, supershite in matches

Wasn't impressed with him in the cup against Millwall but haven't seen enough of him yet to know how good he is or can be but seems to have an engine on him to get up and down the pitch here's hoping he can become a regular we need to see a few more academy players breaking into the first team apart from Eccles not much else has come through since

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[Liquid Gold]

It's too early to rule out Andrews but I don't think he'll play too much of a role this season.

Eccles I think is the one to look out for. Lampard and the staff have done very well developing our midfielders and he looked more progressive in the Sunderland game.

I think with Grimes holding Lampard sees him in the Torp role and hopefully it suits him.

 

[Cally Fedora]

It’s honestly pathetic. He was saying before Sheaf was sold that he should be starting ahead of Torp. We then sold Sheaf and didn’t replace him yet the transfer window is now considered outstanding. He doesn’t make any sense. If bling shagged his Mrs he’d probably congratulate him

No idea what COPE means. You may not, but I do, remember the days when anyone and everyone of any value was sold for less than what that value was. Now I understand people crave shiny new things and get upset because endless links to never happening deals don’t emerge but you have to just accept it’s not that easy. We’ve retained millions of pounds of talent that we would have flogged on the cheap until very recently. If you can’t understand why I think that’s an outstanding window I can’t help you.

 

[procdoc]

No idea what COPE means. You may not, but I do, remember the days when anyone and everyone of any value was sold for less than what that value was. Now I understand people crave shiny new things and get upset because endless links to never happening deals don’t emerge but you have to just accept it’s not that easy. We’ve retained millions of pounds of talent that we would have flogged on the cheap until very recently. If you can’t understand why I think that’s an outstanding window I can’t help you.

Explain how you would start Sheaf ahead of Torp, then sell sheaf without replacing him, and we are better off? You’re the one that said you’d drop Torp, not me or anyone else on this forum. It’s not a hard question

 

[larry_david]

It was widely stated on here we had Brown lined up, ready to sign, sat in his new cov jumper but we were trying to Stamenic in the background. Brown got fed up of waiting and went elsewhere and Stamenic got hijacked from us.

I guess there is no right or wrong way to do it. And sometimes they land for you and sometimes they don't. The key is not to panic buy though, which we didn't do so i'm content with that.

 

[Cally Fedora]

Ok. Let me break this down very very simply for you. If Sheaf was part of the squad, in the particular game we were talking about being Oxford away I would have started him ahead of Torp. He would have given us greater solidity and even bringing him on around 50 mins probably seals the win. Now, in a slightly different but linked world we are a business. When someone comes knocking saying here’s 6.5m for a player towards the end of their contract who is very injury prone you have to take it. Playing Sheaf ahead of Torp and selling him are not mutually exclusive. Do we have a stronger squad post window - yes we do.

 

[shmmeee]

Depth for whom though? Grimes has missed 3 league games since the 2017/18 season.

In preseason, I raised some promising underlying stats of Torp’s performances last season and he’s performing above that level. The concern here is there isn’t a player who can do what Torp does in our squad. Eccles is something inbetween Torp and Grimes but does neither job as well. With Sheaf, better defensively that both Grimes and Torp but not as good as a playmaker.

Next season, we should be looking at revamping the CM position because we’ll presumably move Allen on and what we do with Eccles depends on what he does this season.

He was mostly cover for Torp, he’s a level better than Eccles if we’re honest.

 

[procdoc]

Ok. Let me break this down very very simply for you. If Sheaf was part of the squad, in the particular game we were talking about being Oxford away I would have started him ahead of Torp. He would have given us greater solidity and even bringing him on around 50 mins probably seals the win. Now, in a slightly different but linked world we are a business. When someone comes knocking saying here’s 6.5m for a player towards the end of their contract who is very injury prone you have to take it. Playing Sheaf ahead of Torp and selling him are not mutually exclusive. Do we have a stronger squad post window - yes we do.

It’s a very good point. We’re unbeaten. You’d never know it reading about today. If we can sign a good CH, bed in Brau and KKH and get Sheaf back in for Torp we’ll be fine. Torp can still have a huge impact but he’s not a 90 min performer at the moment.

You’re such a bullshitter. You weren’t on about just the Oxford game.

 

[covcity4life]

I'm sorry but you're completely missing the point here.

We may have wanted him weeks before, we may have moved on to him after missing out on Godo, it doesn't really matter.

What matters is we were crying out for attacking reinforcements since May. What has happened is we've let other clubs transfer policies dictate our own. We should have a comprehensive list on every position and profile containing a multitude of players.

You don't put all your eggs in one basket and then move onto the next when we're gazumped, you should be moving on several on that list at the same time until one comes. It's obvious that this didn't happen because we didn't sign anybody for that position in the 4 months that we had.

It's very poor transfer strategy and it's left us short.

How do you know we didn't try for say 3 big targets and then the drop off from 3rd to 4th in talent wasn't worth price?

You don't just spend for sake of it. Sometimes maybe its better to risk a thing squad than buy someone you ain't 100 percent sure on

 

[Cally Fedora]

You’re such a bullshitter. You weren’t on about just the Oxford game.

OK, assume I wasn’t. I would start Sheaf over Torp. Your question is are we stronger? We’ve lost Rapha, Sheaf, Collins, Binks. We’ve added KKH, Brau, Woolfenden, Rushworth. We’re undoubtedly stronger post window. Plus the retention of key players which you seemingly cannot acknowledge/see the value in.

 

[procdoc]

OK, assume I wasn’t. I would start Sheaf over Torp. Your question is are we stronger? We’ve lost Rapha, Sheaf, Collins, Binks. We’ve added KKH, Brau, Woolfenden, Rushworth. We’re undoubtedly stronger post window. Plus the retention of key players which you seemingly cannot acknowledge/see the value in.

The value in retaining key players goes without saying and is pointless discussing as obviously that’s positive.
I’m saying by your logic, we have sold someone who should be starting ahead of Torp (that was your opinion which I quoted) the midfield is weaker now. Also wouldn’t you agree that we are no stronger than we were in the forward positions?

 

[Deity]

We had a transfer budget for the window. I suspect we only gave up Hughes and Nielsen on the Sunday evening. In doing so it freed up funds for another signing, and Rak Saki was one of the ones we went for but probably not the only one.

We didn’t wait 4 months to act, we swapped targets when we could not land our initial targets.

 

[Cally Fedora]

The value in retaining key players goes without saying and is pointless discussing as obviously that’s positive.
I’m saying by your logic, we have sold someone who should be starting ahead of Torp (that was your opinion which I quoted) the midfield is weaker now. Also wouldn’t you agree that we are no stronger than we were in the forward positions?

We’ve got the same options up front. That is undoubtedly true. But EMC has a season in the champ behind him. Saka looks an improved player and Rudoni has improved a lot. Midfield is weaker overall for losing Sheaf. Defence is very much stronger as is the goalkeeper. Overall it’s progress from last years squad.

 

[procdoc]

We’ve got the same options up front. That is undoubtedly true. But EMC has a season in the champ behind him. Saka looks an improved player and Rudoni has improved a lot. Midfield is weaker overall for losing Sheaf. Defence is very much stronger as is the goalkeeper. Overall it’s progress from last years squad.

The concern I have is if EMC gets injured. We are relying on a completely unproven left back as a back up left winger. We have no depth on either side really

 

[Ricketts]

We bought a stadium, kept Milan, kept Jack Rudoni, got some wages off the books. Amazing. Our long-term future looks a lot better.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The concern I have is if EMC gets injured. We are relying on a completely unproven left back as a back up left winger. We have no depth on either side really

You put Wright there and then Simms or BTA down the centre

 

[procdoc]

You put Wright there and then Simms or BTA down the centre

I don’t think he would put Wright there. He sees him as a central striker only

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I don’t think he would put Wright there. He sees him as a central striker only

I would rather put Wright out wide where he's just as big a threat and put a recognised forward down the middle, than start making it up out left to keep Wright in the centre.

I agree about what he'd probably do instead though.

 

[Cally Fedora]

The concern I have is if EMC gets injured. We are relying on a completely unproven left back as a back up left winger. We have no depth on either side really

We’re not dependant on that. Wright would play left with either BTA or Simms up front. Or play BTA left.

 

[Deity]

We had a transfer budget for the window. I suspect we only gave up Hughes and Nielsen on the Sunday evening. In doing so it freed up funds for another signing, and Rak Saki was one of the ones we went for but probably not the only one.

We didn’t wait 4 months to act, we swapped targets when we could not land our initial targets.

It’s honestly pathetic. He was saying before Sheaf was sold that he should be starting ahead of Torp. We then sold Sheaf and didn’t replace him yet the transfer window is now considered outstanding. He doesn’t make any sense. If bling shagged his Mrs he’d probably congratulate him

And if King bought the stadium, upgraded the training facilities, and facilitated the best squad we have had in 20 years, playing in front of sold out stadiums with a huge variety of City merchandise you would still criticise him …

 

[procdoc]

And if King bought the stadium, upgraded the training facilities, and facilitated the best squad we have had in 20 years, playing in front of sold out stadiums with a huge variety of City merchandise you would still criticise him …

You are allowed to praise him for the great stuff he’s done (which I have) whilst simultaneously be annoyed with our transfer business.