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SkyBlueCharlie9

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On radio 5 Live before final they said his image was planned to be on screen whilst the national anthem was played as US sports fans dont tend to boo during that.
Sensitive guy, is Donald.
 

Grendel

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Grendel

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I’m sure trump will be absolutely devastated, will probably cancel the trip now! A weak man shouting bad words at him is the way to go


Polanski is a clown. He said the other day if shop lifters proved they were poor they shouldn’t be classed as committing a crime. Very anti female safe spaces as well.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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Polanski is a clown. He said the other day if shop lifters proved they were poor they shouldn’t be classed as committing a crime. Very anti female safe spaces as well.
another absolute classic, still you’ll get the SBT geniuses thinking he’s the right person to vote for.

Hopefully he’ll get the floating trump thingy out too, make himself look like even more of a man
 

Otis

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Polanski is a clown. He said the other day if shop lifters proved they were poor they shouldn’t be classed as committing a crime. Very anti female safe spaces as well.
Not sure why they chose him. Charisma, perhaps? He's an ex actor isn't he.

Anyway, whoever is in government HAS to work with Trump, it's as simple as that.
 

Grendel

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Not sure why they chose him. Charisma, perhaps? He's an ex actor isn't he.

Anyway, whoever is in government HAS to work with Trump, it's as simple as that.

Also a hypnotherapist - he got stung by a journalist posing as someone who wanted her breasts enlarged
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Polanski is a clown. He said the other day if shop lifters proved they were poor they shouldn’t be classed as committing a crime. Very anti female safe spaces as well.
He’s not a serious person. He killed whatever credibility he had by saying that Graham Linehan arrest was ‘proportionate’…

Naturally, he’ll be skewered on national TV so quickly retreated to the safe spaces of podcast where we can talk to like minded people.

If he remains in post and the ‘Your Party’ doesn’t get off the ground, Labour might actually hold ‘the left’ of the electorate.
 

Otis

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He’s not a serious person. He killed whatever credibility he had by saying that Graham Linehan arrest was ‘proportionate’…

Naturally, he’ll be skewered on national TV so quickly retreated to the safe spaces of podcast where we can talk to like minded people.

If he remains in post and the ‘Your Party’ doesn’t get off the ground, Labour might actually hold ‘the left’ of the electorate.
Are they ACTUALLY going to call it that?

Talk about a get out of jail free card.

As soon as things start going wrong, they can start distancing themselves from the mess. "It's Your Party!" "NO! It's YOUR Party!" "No, it's YOUR Party!!"
 

SBAndy

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Naturally, he’ll be skewered on national TV so quickly retreated to the safe spaces of podcast where we can talk to like minded people.

I’m genuinely curious on this - that was Trump’s (successful) strategy for his presidential campaign. Why are we to assume that it wouldn’t be the case here? I appreciate the ‘party standing’ angle is different but the method of campaigning surely either works or it doesn’t?
 

Captain Dart

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Not sure why they chose him. Charisma, perhaps? He's an ex actor isn't he.

Anyway, whoever is in government HAS to work with Trump, it's as simple as that.
That won't be the Greens so Mr P can say what he likes. 🤭
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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I’m genuinely curious on this - that was Trump’s (successful) strategy for his presidential campaign. Why are we to assume that it wouldn’t be the case here? I appreciate the ‘party standing’ angle is different but the method of campaigning surely either works or it doesn’t?
To some extent, yes because the outreach of the podcasts he was on (Theo Von, Joe Rogan etc.) was great for a) young men, b) people who didn’t vote and c) “independents”.

Kamala Harris went on podcasts but the talking points were much more controlled from what’s emerged post-election. As a candidate, the people seen of her, the less they liked her and broadly speaking, the opposite was true for Trump.

For all of Trump’s flaws, I personally thought he was somewhat relatable in his podcasts.

Back to Polanski, his guest list will be a who’s who of left wing activists and it’ll build a niche following. The worry is that if you build a popular podcast speaking to essentially an echo chamber, an inexperienced leader may mistake that for genuine popular policies. When it comes to elections, he’ll need to face people he disagrees with and that’s where I think he’ll completely fold or he’ll say something stupid like people should be arrested/jailed for tweets.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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To some extent, yes because the outreach of the podcasts he was on (Theo Von, Joe Rogan etc.) was great for a) young men, b) people who didn’t vote and c) “independents”.

Kamala Harris went on podcasts but the talking points were much more controlled from what’s emerged post-election. As a candidate, the people seen of her, the less they liked her and broadly speaking, the opposite was true for Trump.

For all of Trump’s flaws, I personally thought he was somewhat relatable in his podcasts.

Back to Polanski, his guest list will be a who’s who of left wing activists and it’ll build a niche following. The worry is that if you build a popular podcast speaking to essentially an echo chamber, an inexperienced leader may mistake that for genuine popular policies. When it comes to elections, he’ll need to face people he disagrees with and that’s where I think he’ll completely fold or he’ll say something stupid like people should be arrested/jailed for tweets.
For anyone to succeed in the current climate they need to get their message out in as many different 'short' forms as possible. Attention spans are very low, even podcasts are mostly just used to create 'viral' clips and that requires a skill set few politicians have.
 

SBAndy

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To some extent, yes because the outreach of the podcasts he was on (Theo Von, Joe Rogan etc.) was great for a) young men, b) people who didn’t vote and c) “independents”.

Kamala Harris went on podcasts but the talking points were much more controlled from what’s emerged post-election. As a candidate, the people seen of her, the less they liked her and broadly speaking, the opposite was true for Trump.

For all of Trump’s flaws, I personally thought he was somewhat relatable in his podcasts.

Back to Polanski, his guest list will be a who’s who of left wing activists and it’ll build a niche following. The worry is that if you build a popular podcast speaking to essentially an echo chamber, an inexperienced leader may mistake that for genuine popular policies. When it comes to elections, he’ll need to face people he disagrees with and that’s where I think he’ll completely fold or he’ll say something stupid like people should be arrested/jailed for tweets.

Fair. Are there any UK-based podcasts that you would suggest are ‘good’ targets? I’m not aware of a Rogan-equivalent (not that I listen to that, to be honest). So could it be that the UK podcast landscape doesn’t have the same reach/impact?
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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For anyone to succeed in the current climate they need to get their message out in as many different 'short' forms as possible. Attention spans are very low, even podcasts are mostly just used to create 'viral' clips and that requires a skill set few politicians have.
With respect to Kamala Harris, she was clearly unable to speak about

Her campaign paid 160k ish to the ‘Call Me Daddy’ podcast to set up a studio for her appearance. Joe Rogan accused the Harris campaign team of messing him about with the location of the podcast and supposedly would only do the interview if they could edit the material and questions predetermined.

Take what you will. I listened to the Trump JRE podcast and whilst Trump would ramble on about stuff and Joe Rogan rarely interrupt/challenge him… he and JD Vance were relatable.

Fair. Are there any UK-based podcasts that you would suggest are ‘good’ targets? I’m not aware of a Rogan-equivalent (not that I listen to that, to be honest). So could it be that the UK podcast landscape doesn’t have the same reach/impact?

Triggernomentry has had interesting guests on the show but wouldn’t frequent it for every episode.

Steven Bartlett has intriguing characters on his show, there was a debate between Gary Stevenson v Daniel Priestly was good imo.

I’ve listened to some stuff on Novara v occasionally to diversify but it’s not my cup of tea. Plenty of my LW mates like their material.

I don’t usually consume politics via podcasts if I’m honest. I’m much more of a history buff so frequent audiobooks on topics that take my fancy.
 

chiefdave

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Polanski has started his own podcast which has gone straight into the Top 10 in the UK. The Rest is Politics and the News Agents are consistently at the top of the charts so there's definitely an outlet.

How much of an impact it could have is a whole other question.
 

Grendel

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Polanski has started his own podcast which has gone straight into the Top 10 in the UK. The Rest is Politics and the News Agents are consistently at the top of the charts so there's definitely an outlet.

How much of an impact it could have is a whole other question.

He will be finished in 6 months - he’s a total arsehole
 

SBAndy

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Polanski has started his own podcast which has gone straight into the Top 10 in the UK. The Rest is Politics and the News Agents are consistently at the top of the charts so there's definitely an outlet.

How much of an impact it could have is a whole other question.

Ok I’ve misunderstood. I thought he was planning to go on podcasts; didn’t realise he had a podcast.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Polanski has started his own podcast which has gone straight into the Top 10 in the UK. The Rest is Politics and the News Agents are consistently at the top of the charts so there's definitely an outlet.

How much of an impact it could have is a whole other question.
I’d like to know what % of listeners were non-Green party members.
 

duffer

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To some extent, yes because the outreach of the podcasts he was on (Theo Von, Joe Rogan etc.) was great for a) young men, b) people who didn’t vote and c) “independents”.

Kamala Harris went on podcasts but the talking points were much more controlled from what’s emerged post-election. As a candidate, the people seen of her, the less they liked her and broadly speaking, the opposite was true for Trump.

For all of Trump’s flaws, I personally thought he was somewhat relatable in his podcasts.

Back to Polanski, his guest list will be a who’s who of left wing activists and it’ll build a niche following. The worry is that if you build a popular podcast speaking to essentially an echo chamber, an inexperienced leader may mistake that for genuine popular policies. When it comes to elections, he’ll need to face people he disagrees with and that’s where I think he’ll completely fold or he’ll say something stupid like people should be arrested/jailed for tweets.

Interesting, I think a lot of folk would agree with arresting people who advocate stuff like burning down hotels full of people.

Does that cause you a problem?
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Interesting, I think a lot of folk would agree with arresting people who advocate stuff like burning down hotels full of people.

Does that cause you a problem?

Zack Polanski was asked about Graham Linehan who tweeted about punching a trans woman ‘in the balls’. He said it was proportionate that he was arrested for that which is just bonkers.

To circle back to Lucy Connolly, what she said was awful but 31 months for a racist tweet when violent criminals, including sex offenders are getting half that is plainly ridiculous. To make this case more egregious is that Ricky Jones, a Labour councillor, was ‘cleared of incitement’ despite calling for the ‘slitting of far-right activists’ throats. Either Ricky Jones and Lucy Connolly are both guilty of incitement or none of them are.

What both of them said was disgusting but, neither deserved prison time imo. It’s hard to bat away the perception that there’s a ‘two tier’ justice system.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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I doubt the Green Party have enough members that even if every single one of them listened to it wouldn't make the top 10 so there must be a decent amount of non-members listening.
Its YouTube views (39k) was about half the total Green Party membership (65k). The first guest, Ash Sarkar (Novara) has a reasonably large following (400k+ on Twitter).
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Who decided that Lucy Connolly was guilty?
Without getting into the nitty gritty, she was encouraged to plead guilty.

Whichever way you look at things, 31 months sentencing for a nasty racist tweet cannot outweigh sentences being passed to genuinely violent criminals. That is a perverse way to organise your justice system.
 

duffer

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Anyway, back to Trump. I guess his supporters are entirely happy cheerleading for a nonce, because, hey, who cares if he's a thick, lying pervert, he's owning the 'libs", right?

 

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